Posts tagged “Derek Meech”

Maltby, Meech Clear Waivers

Update (1:01 PM): Maltby’s taking a day to decide what he’ll do. –  Matt

No big surprise. Now the question for Maltby becomes, as @mserven put it, “… is $105k worth the risk of an injury that impacts your retirement life?”

As for Meech, I have to feel bad for the guy. He’s been stuck in a sort of career no-mans land here in Detroit for a couple years and now he’s not even getting bites when he’s out there for free. Not a great way to have your career go.

Maltby, Meech Waived

More from @TSNBobMcKenzie:

Det puts Maltby and Meech on waivers.

Khan has slightly more detail, but you already know the gist.

So does Maltby go to the AHL or does he retire*? As for what this day means for Red Wings history, Bill put it better than I ever could this morning.

So Eaves is safe, if he ever was on the cusp. And Draper’s likely not going on LTIR or the Wings wouldn’t bother with waiving Maltby yet.

As for Meech, I guess he has to clear again due to a waiver reset on September 25th. Given his health status, I’d be shocked if anyone claims him.

*That’s assuming a third option—that he gets claimed—isn’t really likely. Though I wouldn’t put it past the Lightning, who may want his leadership.

Meech Clears Waivers

Says Bob McKenzie via Twitter.

That’s a major blow to Meech’s hopes of playing in the NHL this year because, unless I’m mistaken, he’d have to clear re-entry waivers to be called back up to the Wings at some point. Given that the Wings probably wouldn’t like the idea of being responsible for half of Meech’s salary should he get claimed on re-entry (a team not interested in him at $500,000 may like him better at $250,000), I think it’d be more likely we’d see Janik or Smith this year before Meech.

So unless the Wings can swing a trade after he’s had a chance to generate buzz at camp, it sucks to be Derek.

Today in Unlikely Scenarios: Willie Mitchell

Using CapGeek’s new-fangled Flash-based cap calculator (sorry, iPhone/iPad users), I came up with the following lineup/payroll:


Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Mike Modano ($1.250m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Patrick Eaves ($0.750m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.750m) / Darren Helm ($0.750m)
Drew Miller ($0.650m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m) / Willie Mitchell ($1.500m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)


Jimmy Howard ($0.716m) / Chris Osgood ($1.416m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,375,378; BONUSES: $0

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $24,622

In a Ritola and Meech-less roster reality, the Wings can squeeze Mitchell in if they convince him to take a $2 million paycut. Unless Willie’s thinking a year in Detroit would help his chances at big bucks next summer, however, I’m going to have to say that’s about as likely as Chicago having 23 men under NHL contract is.

Ship Draper to Tampa Bay and the number goes up. But there’s just no way that happens.

CapGeek: Meech Signs 1 Year, $500,000

Update (12:06 PM): McCosky has more, including comments from Ken Holland. – Matt

Update (11:20 AM): Khan confirms. – Matt

I haven’t seen it confirmed elsewhere, but assuming it’s true, that leaves $3,257,955 or so in real cap space* for signings. Meech is probable trade fodder, but could survive as a Wing if the Wings end up needing someone with moderately more experience than Smith, Ericsson and Kindl on the bottom pairing. Here’s hoping that doesn’t happen.

*The ceiling they can be at when the pre-season ends. They can go as much as $5.9 million over that until then.

McCosky Theorizes on Modano

And says he thinks there’s a possibility the Wings are offering him less than $1 million, citing what he sees as a difficulty in making the numbers work with Helm and Abdelkader*.

I can’t say I get the same vibe because the Wings’ $3.7 million in cap space should be plenty to sign those three players and leave room over for a defenseman. The Wings have plenty of leverage over Helm and Abdelkader, who are not going to arbitration and more or less have to take what the Wings offer them.

If Modano’s hoping for more than $1 million, then it gets problematic, but otherwise, the Wings should be able to do this from a pure cap perspective. Whether they should or not is a topic on which I’ve made my views clear, but whatever. It’s going to happen, unless Modano decides he doesn’t want to play any more or won’t settle for a million.

*He also mentions Meech, who is irrelevant because even if he gets re-signed, it’s only to trade him before they actually need to be under the cap.

Cap Talk

Update (8:17 PM): Just realized I left a hole in this post: if Lilja can’t make it back in a meaningful way, the Wings will only be about $650,000 over the cap, which means Leino’s the most likely odd-man out. The question becomes much, much easier in that case.

Easy’s good, but I can’t hope for that. I want Lilja to get back to hockey. Weber’s fists can’t be the way he goes out. – Matt

So, according to Ken Daniels last night, the Wings will be about $1.9 million over the cap assuming everyone comes back with no further injuries to anyone else.

That may be a big assumption on Lilja’s part, as he still has to prove he can take the daily grind of being a hockey player again. The projected conditioning stint in Grand Rapids is going to be hugely important and the Wings are going to have to make a decision based on a scant two weeks. Not a whole lot to go on.

Just for fun, let’s assume Lilja’s going to be healthy and everyone else is going to come back. No more injuries. Isn’t that a fun fantasy?

The Wings need to ship off some cap space, either through waivers or a trade. And I tend to agree with Daniels’ analysis that they won’t be looking to move defensemen. You can’t have too much depth at D and the guys everyone talks about, Lebda and Meech, are dirt cheap. That means two things: their movement won’t mean much and they’re a steal.

And we have a couple guys in Drew Miller and Patrick Eaves that no one wants to see shafted. So we’re looking at forwards, but, I hope, not those two.

May’s a given, I would think. But he’s only pulling in $481,865. More guys have to go. Some possibilities:

Scenario A:

May ($481,865) + Maltby ($883,333) + Leino ($800,000) = $2,165,198. (Roster: 22)

This one bothers me. I don’t care about May and Leino, who have been busts by just about any definition. Leino’s upside would normally make dumping him tough, but he’s shown so little promise in delivering that upside that I’m not attached to him in any way. I like May on a personal level and thing he’s great in front of a camera with a mic in his face. But other than that, he’s dead weight on this team. So no problems there.

It’s, predictably, the Maltby part of the equation that gets me. Maltby is a shadow of his former self. He’s no longer so integral on the PK and is nowhere near the SHed threat he once was. He’s a fourth liner at best these days. But he’s Kirk Maltby and he’s put in years of service for an organization that values that above little else. I would hate to see his career ended on anyone’s terms but his. And it should end with him as a Red Wing.

The math may work here, but if that’s not bad math, I don’t know what is. I know this is a business, but I don’t want to see the Wings become the Tigers and make decisions like that with so little regard for loyalty and character. They’ve painstakingly built a reputation as a team that takes care of its people. I think they value that reputation quite highly, given the return on investment they’ve seen, so I’d be fairly shocked if they unceremoniously dumped Maltby off.

On a tangently-related sidenote, some of my attitude over the Osgood/Howard situation comes from being surprised an organization with such a reputation of even-handedness in the veteran-to-new-guy transition has been so heavy-handed in this scenario. Anyway. Update: By the way, I’m not trying to start another Osgood/Howard debate here. My focus is the cap situation. Unfortunate toss-away comment on my part. – Matt

Scenario B:

May ($481,865) + Jason Williams ($1.5 million) = $1,981,465 (Roster: 23)

This would slide the Wings in just under the cap, presumably. And at first glance, isn’t likely. Williams is meant to be a top six guy on this team, you say. True. But they went without him for nearly half a season. You might respond that the Wings didn’t exactly tear it up in his absence, so maybe they need him. I’d say I doubt the absence of Jason Williams is the reason the Wings haven’t done better this season.

Think about it: which of the injuries was the biggest, accounting for talent and length (so, not Zetterberg)? Franzen, followed closely by Kronwall. So maybe the Wings win a few more games with Williams around, but I wouldn’t call him critical like those two. Maybe it’s highly unlikely, but this scenario has the benefit of the Wings already seeing how they might do without one of the guys. Not very well, you’d think, until you remember Franzen and Kronwall are back in the picture.

Maybe I like this scenario because I’m not a Williams fan. And maybe I like it because they’ve already traded him in the past. They may just do it again.

Scenario C:

May ($481,865) + Leino ($800,000) + Lebda ($650,000) = $1,931,865 (roster: 22)

I’m sure this is one a lot of people could get behind. Not my wife, who’s a big Lebda supporter, but all of his detractors. This one may be the most likely, which is unfortunate for those of us (Megan and I, and some others) who believe Lebda can be a strong third pairing guy given the right partner (i.e. not a rookie). I think Daniels is right and that the Wings will try not to move a defenseman, but if they are, Lebda’s salary may make bring him forward in Holland’s mind.

Scenario D:

May ($481,865) + Leino ($800,000) + Eaves ($500,000) + Miller ($413,472) = $2,195,337 (Roster: 21)

Yeah, this one’s a mixed bag, eh? Two players we’d love to be rid of and two players we’ve all grown attached to over the course of this screwball season. Two guys who’ve been bright spots through the crap. I hate this option. As I’ve already said, I want to be talking about Helm and Eaves for years to come. And Miller has really shown himself to be a great combination of incredible work ethic and surprising hand-eye coordination that has serious potential for some big goals over a career here. I really don’t want to see either of them traded or waived. Someone would claim them on the wire.

Scenario E:

May ($481,865) + Leino ($800,000) + Meech ($483,333) + Miller ($413,472) = $2,178,670 (Roster: 21)

If, as I hope, Holland finds Eaves too valuable, here’s a possibility. Of the two, Miller’s likely more expendable. And if Holland decides Lebda worth of sticking around, Meech could get the nod. I’ve felt for a while that Meech is a bit of a deadman in the organization as his development’s seemingly been mothballed and he’s been relegated to spare part status when he could have been a Quincey-level player. But he does come at a bargain-basement price and that makes him a handy asset to have.

Scenario X:

Chances are, Holland’s going to figure something out no one else thought of. That’s how he works. So in some days, this is a pointless exercise. But it’s definitely an interesting one.

Of course, it may turn out that Lilja’s can’t make it work.

What do you think?

(numbers via CapGeek).