Comments for On the Wings http://onthewingsblog.com by true Citizens of Hockeytown Fri, 18 May 2012 01:12:54 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Report: Fedorov Retiring, Set to Manage CSKA Moscow by adamhttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/05/12/report-fedorov-retiring-set-to-manage-cska-moscow/comment-page-1/#comment-61296 adam Fri, 18 May 2012 01:12:54 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9175#comment-61296 my favorite red wing. insisted on #91 for every team pee wee and up. and had to have those damn nike skates as well. my favorite red wing. insisted on #91 for every team pee wee and up. and had to have those damn nike skates as well.

]]> Comment on Octodrama Update by NHL vs. octopus: Detroit police fine Red Wings fan $500 for toss | NPS Imagehttp://onthewingsblog.com/2011/04/15/octodrama-update/comment-page-1/#comment-61295 NHL vs. octopus: Detroit police fine Red Wings fan $500 for toss | NPS Image Thu, 03 May 2012 16:16:52 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=7416#comment-61295 [...] Matt Saler, who blogs on the Red Wings at On the Wings, spoke with an Officer Bullock at the Detroit Police Department’s Central Events desk and was told that the city police areenforcing the policy at the behest of the NHL: Read more at sports.yahoo.com [...] [...] Matt Saler, who blogs on the Red Wings at On the Wings, spoke with an Officer Bullock at the Detroit Police Department’s Central Events desk and was told that the city police areenforcing the policy at the behest of the NHL: Read more at sports.yahoo.com [...]

]]> Comment on A Rule Proposal for Dealing with Head Contact by Matt Salerhttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/22/a-rule-proposal-for-dealing-with-head-contact/comment-page-1/#comment-61294 Matt Saler Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:30:54 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9121#comment-61294 Thanks, Zac. Yeah, there's definite room for abuse there. Increased vigilance on the diving front and maybe including a neutral medical observer in the off-ice officiating crew could help mitigate that. But maybe a double-minor starting point would be the way to go. Definitely something to think about... Thanks, Zac. Yeah, there's definite room for abuse there. Increased vigilance on the diving front and maybe including a neutral medical observer in the off-ice officiating crew could help mitigate that.

But maybe a double-minor starting point would be the way to go. Definitely something to think about…

]]> Comment on Get Over It by Jimmihttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/21/get-over-it/comment-page-1/#comment-61293 Jimmi Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:39:04 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9116#comment-61293 Matt, no need to listen to this moron AKA Puck Daddy as he likes to call himself. He reminds me of those sports bettors who claim 70% win rate but actually don't bet but make money by those sadsacks signing for his service. 25 games, hopefully not just playoff games but it continues into next season. If Puck Daddy wants to compare something its like giving a killer who doesn't finish the job 2 yrs but eventually he will kill & get what??? Torrres is a hack who has a reputation. Done deal Matt, no need to listen to this moron AKA Puck Daddy as he likes to call himself. He reminds me of those sports bettors who claim 70% win rate but actually don't bet but make money by those sadsacks signing for his service.

25 games, hopefully not just playoff games but it continues into next season. If Puck Daddy wants to compare something its like giving a killer who doesn't finish the job 2 yrs but eventually he will kill & get what???

Torrres is a hack who has a reputation. Done deal

]]> Comment on A Rule Proposal for Dealing with Head Contact by Zac MacRostiehttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/22/a-rule-proposal-for-dealing-with-head-contact/comment-page-1/#comment-61292 Zac MacRostie Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:43:39 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9121#comment-61292 That's good. The only thing you would really have to watch out for is, in the case of Draft #3 is a player staying down and milking it for the double. A star player probably wouldn't, but what would prevent a fourth liner who doesn't see PP time from doing it? You would have to take away interpretation and start with a double-minor for all head-shots, accidental or otherwise. That's good. The only thing you would really have to watch out for is, in the case of Draft #3 is a player staying down and milking it for the double. A star player probably wouldn't, but what would prevent a fourth liner who doesn't see PP time from doing it? You would have to take away interpretation and start with a double-minor for all head-shots, accidental or otherwise.

]]> Comment on Read of the Day: Changes & A Response by Michael Petrellahttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/21/read-of-the-day-changes-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-61291 Michael Petrella Sun, 22 Apr 2012 02:36:45 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9108#comment-61291 My response to your response: It's clear we're on the same page for the most part. My issue is this: While many of the players WERE a part of the 2008 Championship team... it's not 2008 anymore. Championship teams evolve each season... what worked in one year won't work in the next, because 29 other teams have adjusted to match them (or, in some cases, copy their methods). There's no doubt, at all, that this team is as talented as any... but just because a team won a Cup with Roster A doesn't mean that they can win one several years later with Roster A. Hell, the '97 team won a Cup, too. But they wouldn't win in 2013. Okay, maybe the '97 team would. =) My response to your response:

It's clear we're on the same page for the most part. My issue is this: While many of the players WERE a part of the 2008 Championship team… it's not 2008 anymore. Championship teams evolve each season… what worked in one year won't work in the next, because 29 other teams have adjusted to match them (or, in some cases, copy their methods). There's no doubt, at all, that this team is as talented as any… but just because a team won a Cup with Roster A doesn't mean that they can win one several years later with Roster A.

Hell, the '97 team won a Cup, too. But they wouldn't win in 2013.

Okay, maybe the '97 team would. =)

]]> Comment on Read of the Day: Changes & A Response by Garthhttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/21/read-of-the-day-changes-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-61290 Garth Sun, 22 Apr 2012 01:16:32 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9108#comment-61290 I wouldn't hold my breath on Smith. When Stuart goes they're going to get a veteran to replace him, not put a rookie in there and with Ericsson and Quincey, Smith's only bet is to be the 7th defenseman and that does nothing for his development. Better to have Kindl be the #7, Smith play big minutes in Grand Rapids and then he can come up when Lidstrom hangs them up (next summer). I wouldn't hold my breath on Smith. When Stuart goes they're going to get a veteran to replace him, not put a rookie in there and with Ericsson and Quincey, Smith's only bet is to be the 7th defenseman and that does nothing for his development. Better to have Kindl be the #7, Smith play big minutes in Grand Rapids and then he can come up when Lidstrom hangs them up (next summer).

]]> Comment on Read of the Day: Changes & A Response by Bryanhttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/21/read-of-the-day-changes-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-61289 Bryan Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:40:58 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9108#comment-61289 I agree with you about Nyquist. He's going to be huge, and needs more ice time. Also, Stuart needs to go, and Smith needs to be in. I agree with you about Nyquist. He's going to be huge, and needs more ice time. Also, Stuart needs to go, and Smith needs to be in.

]]> Comment on Read of the Day: Changes & A Response by Garthhttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/21/read-of-the-day-changes-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-61288 Garth Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:56:14 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9108#comment-61288 Here's your problem, in my opinion. "Many of these players were a part of the 2008 Cup, so we know there’s a group that has what it takes." Yeah, there were 8 forwards who were on the winning team, but some of them were small contributors who aren't suited to larger roles and some have had their contributions greatly diminish since then. Dan Cleary was on that team, and he contributed 3 points, and his body is falling apart on him. Nevermind the fact that he has absolutely no business being in a top six role, yet he's had that thrust upon him. Holmstrom was on that team and contributed greatly but HIS body is falling apart and he can't play anywhere near the role he played in 2008. Also, playing on the 4th line, he's simply taking up the spot of someone with more energy who is more suited to the role of a 4th liner. Those are just two examples. There are also guys like Franzen who played really well in 2008 but has completely stopped giving a shit about anything since he hit his payday, and Filppula who is only now coming into his own but was ineffective offensively in the playoffs this year, and Hudler who is a complete wildcard. Did he play well this year because he had to take time to readjust to the NHL or did he play well because it's a contract year? I would really like to see some changes this summer, and I really really wish Holland didn't re-sign Bertuzzi. It's about time that, for the first time since 2009, the Red Wings have too many top six forwards rather than too few. Here's your problem, in my opinion.

"Many of these players were a part of the 2008 Cup, so we know there’s a group that has what it takes."

Yeah, there were 8 forwards who were on the winning team, but some of them were small contributors who aren't suited to larger roles and some have had their contributions greatly diminish since then. Dan Cleary was on that team, and he contributed 3 points, and his body is falling apart on him. Nevermind the fact that he has absolutely no business being in a top six role, yet he's had that thrust upon him. Holmstrom was on that team and contributed greatly but HIS body is falling apart and he can't play anywhere near the role he played in 2008. Also, playing on the 4th line, he's simply taking up the spot of someone with more energy who is more suited to the role of a 4th liner. Those are just two examples. There are also guys like Franzen who played really well in 2008 but has completely stopped giving a shit about anything since he hit his payday, and Filppula who is only now coming into his own but was ineffective offensively in the playoffs this year, and Hudler who is a complete wildcard. Did he play well this year because he had to take time to readjust to the NHL or did he play well because it's a contract year?

I would really like to see some changes this summer, and I really really wish Holland didn't re-sign Bertuzzi. It's about time that, for the first time since 2009, the Red Wings have too many top six forwards rather than too few.

]]> Comment on Work to Do by Keithhttp://onthewingsblog.com/2012/04/20/work-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-61287 Keith Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:54:09 +0000 http://onthewingsblog.com/?p=9104#comment-61287 The Red Wings needed another scorer. It's been obvious most of the season. Detroit had zero consistent snipers this year. Datsyuk and Z didn't live up to their standards but nobody else helped them. Franzen has been inconsistent since his contract, Hudler and Filppula have never performed in the playoffs before and counting on them to was dumb. Instead of buying another defender, who is no better than Smith, we could have really used a sniper. I think Holland screwed up this trade deadline. It was clear we needed scoring help, we didn't get it, and we lost this series because Rinne is Rinne and we didn't score enough. What makes me even more upset is that Stuart is clearly gone, Lidstrom and Holmer might join him. What is Holland waiting for? You go all in before these guys leave and not after! The Red Wings needed another scorer. It's been obvious most of the season. Detroit had zero consistent snipers this year. Datsyuk and Z didn't live up to their standards but nobody else helped them. Franzen has been inconsistent since his contract, Hudler and Filppula have never performed in the playoffs before and counting on them to was dumb.

Instead of buying another defender, who is no better than Smith, we could have really used a sniper. I think Holland screwed up this trade deadline. It was clear we needed scoring help, we didn't get it, and we lost this series because Rinne is Rinne and we didn't score enough. What makes me even more upset is that Stuart is clearly gone, Lidstrom and Holmer might join him. What is Holland waiting for? You go all in before these guys leave and not after!

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