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We can forget about Grigorenko

According to Bruce MacLeod, the Wings are all but done with Russian prospect/disappointment Igor Grigorenko. Ken Holland told him, “I think it’s time to move on.” Unless they hear that he’s in great shape again, they’ll let their rights to him expire .

After Grigorenko’s decision to come to training camp out of shape and his flouting of the Wings’ desire that he remain in Grand Rapids for the season, this should come as no surprise. The guy cleary does not fit the organization’s ethos and it’s probably not a stretch to say he doesn’t have what it takes to be an NHLer.

It’s a disappointment, for sure, as we’ve been reading about him for 5+ years, cheering him on through his recovery from the car accident, and intently watching his long-awaited arrival in North America. Too bad. Good luck in Russia, Igor.

Grigorenko assigned to UFA Salavat Yulaev of RSL; Howard returns to Grand Rapids

The Wings announced today that Igor Grigorenko has been assigned to UFA the Ufa Salavat Yulaev of the Russian Super League and Jimmy Howard has been returned to Grand Rapids due to Dominik Hasek’s recovery from a sore hip problem.

Grigorenko returning to Russia

Update (27. Oct, 11:15 AM): Bruce MacLeod has more here and IwoCPO has a good roundup at Abel to Yzerman (and be sure to check out the comments). -  Matt 

Ansar Khan reports that Igor Grigorenko is headed back to Russia. The team will retain his rights if he wants to try again next year, though they’ll need to sign him to another contract this summer if they hope to give him another chance. It goes without saying that he’ll have to come better prepared next time around, if there is one. Good luck in Russia, Igor.

The Grigorenko drama continues

George Malik has a great breakdown of the latest development in the Grigorenko story over at Snapshots. Be sure to check it out. My interest in this kid is rapidly approaching zero.

10/23 Grigorenko Update

Update (7:25 PM):Bob Roose’s article on the Wings’ official site has a great Mike Babcock quote about how Grigorenko will have to earn a spot:

“If someone has a bad game and someone is working their butt off, they’re the first one in – absolutely. Ellis has gone from a guy who played very little to not dressing to playing to playing well to having three or four points and being a plus-four. It’s called a work ethic.”

This is the time for Grigorenko to show that he has the the necessary work ethic. He certainly has the talent, but that’s not all that matters. - Matt

Bruce MacLeod reports that Igor Grigorenko participated in drills with the fourth line in today’s practice. However, because the majority of practice was spent working on the power play, Igor did not see a lot of ice. It doesn’t look like he’ll play this week after all, because he’ll need time to prove he’s one of the 20 best players with the team, that he’s a “winner.”

… George Malik has a take on Grigorenko from Ken Holland, in he states the obvious: like every Red Wing, he is going to be evaluated on a day-to-day basis. Because of that, Malik says, it’s “premature” to speculate where Grigorenko will end up two weeks from now. Whatever demands Grigorenko appears to be making, the Wings are not just going along, at least according to Holland’s reaction to the accusation.

… Ken Holland told Helene St. James that this is Igor’s last shot, as he does not “anticipate … heading down this path a year from now.” I’m not going to be too heartbroken if Grigorenko blows his last chance at playing in the NHL. If he burns bridges with the Wings, who will, barring a transfer agreement between Russia and the NHL, remain the only team that will have his rights from now until he retires, he’ll be stuck in Europe.

Aaron Downey’s value

Dave at Gorilla Crouch has a great post on the Igor Grigorenko situation up. In it, he makes a good case for keeping Aaron Downey on the roster over Grigorenko: Downey’s presence will help deter goons like Jordin Tootoo from taking a cheapshot on one of the team’s stars.

As for Igor himself, Dave believes his days as a Red Wing are nearing an end and I can’t disagree. It’s going to take a major turnaround in that kid’s attitude for the team to keep him around beyond Franzen’s return.

10/22 Drake Update

Helene St. James reports that Dallas Drake will miss at least the next two games with a broken cheekbone. He’ll be checked out again on Friday, but it looks like he’ll be available for the road trip next week. It looks, then, like this will be the week for Igor Grigorenko to find a way into the lineup, probably over Aaron Downey. As soon as Drake returns, there’ll only be one open spot and Matt Ellis has that one pretty well locked down. Personally, I’d rather Downey continue to dress until Drake returns, but that’s just me.

Wings call up Grigorenko

Update (23. Oct, 10:10 AM): Johan Franzen is slated to return in two weeks, so, barring another injury, Grigorenko has until then to impress the Wings enough to stay. - Matt

Update (4:15 PM): Christy Hammond has posted her response to Grigorenko’s promotion here. Is anyone excited about it or are we all in agreement that he doesn’t deserve it? Also, George Malik has another post up on the topic. - Matt

Update (3:30 PM): See George Malik’s take here. He asks a great question: why didn’t the Wings hire a “minder” to help Igor adjust to life in the States? - Matt

Bruce MacLeod reports that the Wings have promoted Igor Grigorenko to Detroit. Apparently, he was unhappy in Grand Rapids and refused to stay beyond the three weeks allowed by his contract with his Russian team. So, rather than putting him in his place for being a punk or letting him go, the team has given him what he wants. This is in spite of the fact that Grigorenko is pointless and minus-1 through five games with the Griffins. It seems he is being given one last chance to show he’s worthwhile.

To make room, Johan Franzen (knee) has been placed on the IR, though he practiced with the team today. Obviously, that buys time for Matt Ellis and Aaron Downey, one of whom will likely suffer demotion because of Grigorenko’s selfishness as soon as Franzen returns.

In his time in Grand Rapids, Grigorenko has done nothing to show he deserves a spot on the team, while over the same span Downey and Ellis have developed quite strong cases. That’s what’s unfair about this whole thing. While others have paid their dues, Grigorenko has assumed he’d get a free ride, and to some extent, the Wings are cooperating.

Of course, Grigorenko could suddenly impress the Red Wings brass and become the standout everyone’s been hoping for, thereby winning everyone over. Perhaps being around his countryman Pavel Datsyukk will help the kid. Part of his troubles in Grand Rapids no doubt stemmed from the lack of another Russian in the lockerroom. That excuse only covers him so far, however, as he’s supposed to be fluent in hockey, whatever his actual linguistic skills, and he still did not perform as expected.

If being around Datsyuk and being in an NHL lockerroom aren’t enough, he’ll continue to be a flop. If that’s the case, he’ll likely be on a plane to Russia before too long because he obviously is not going back to Grand Rapids. The team would be foolish to keep him around on the odd chance that he’d suddenly wake and be a team player, especially when they have guys like Ellis and Downey ready and willing to contribute.

I don’t know what to expect. Grigorenko’s obvious attitude problems lead me to be pessimistic, but part of me wants to remain hopeful that he’ll succeed. I really don’t like that he’s stepping on Ellis and Downey’s toes to get in the Winged Wheel, but all we can do is hope those two continue to demonstrate their value, whatever happens with Grigorenko.

Grigorenko absent from practice

Update (11:45 PM): Kevin Allen of USA Today quotes Ken Holland as saying,

“He’s going down for three weeks, and when we get back from the California trip, we are looking to bring him back.”

So, we’re looking at a possible NHL regular season debut for Grigorenko on October 24th versus Vancouver. (via Snapshots) - Matt

Update (1:50 PM): It’s been confirmed: Grigorenko will start the season in Grand Rapids. The team views it as a chance for Grigorenko to get acclimated to North American hockey, not as a permanent demotion, so it’s pretty likely that he’ll be with the team in a month or so.

Also, Matt Ellis has earned the 13th spot, and Aaron Downey has been offered a two-way contract, which he apparently is expected to accept. If he does, he’ll be the 14th forward. Mark Hartigen was also sent down, but has to clear waivers. Kyle Quincey will not go back to Grand Rapids until his hand is healed, because of a clause in the CBA. - Matt

Ansar Khan reports that Igor Grigorenko was one of three players not on the ice today in practice. Chris Chelios and Mark Hartigen were the other players. Given that Igor’s only remaining competition for a spot, Matt Ellis and Aaron Downey, both practiced, the speculation is that he has been sent down to Grand Rapids, though there is no confirmation that I’ve been able to find. The only other explanations is that Grigorenko is injured, but he looked fine at the end of Saturday’s game.

If he was, in fact, sent down, how this will all play out remains to be seen. I suspect Matt Ellis’ spot on the team is pretty safe, but Aaron Downey’s is not. Downey may be this year’s Brad Norton and end up being replaced by this year’s Valtteri Filppula, Igor Grigorenko. Although Igor was not as impressive as Fil was last year, the Wings risk losing him if they keep in the minors for too long. So, his demotion is probably nothing more than a conditioning stint. Hopefully he takes full advantage of it.

Meech makes the team

The Wings have sent down Derek Meech’s only remaining competition for the 7th spot, Jonathan Ericsson. Jimmy Howard and Mattias Ritola were also sent down. The only question that remains is which of these four will stay with the Wings: Igor Grigorenko, Matt Ellis, Aaron Downey, and Mark Hartigen. As you know, I’m pulling for Ellis, and feel Grigorenko should at least start the season in the AHL. We should find out today.