Hossa’s Gone

Update (01. Jul, 2:16 PM): Staggering, mind-blowing deal: 12-years, $62.4 million with Chicago. Wow. More to come after work. - Matt

Sportsnet, via Winging It In Motown:

Sportsnet has learned Marion Hossa has turned down a contract offer from the Red Wings that would have kept the all-star with the Red Wings for the next 10 years.

A source compared the length of the deal to the deals Johan Franzen and Henrik Zetterberg signed. It’s believed the deal-breaker was the average salary which fell between $3.75 million and $4 million.

That report would have a little more credibility with me if it spelled “Marion’s” name right, but the basic facts are probably correct. Holland has effectively confirmed the rejection by telling Ted Kulfan, “It certainly appears [he'll test the market].” There’s just about zero chance he’ll resign after market opens tomorrow.

What I don’t get is the so-called sticking point. If the deal is structured so that he gets $6+ million a year for a few years, with compensation progressively decreasing over the latter years, what exactly is so bad about it? Who cares if the average salary is $3.75 to $5 $4 million? To me, it just proves he’s caring about the money this year, not winning.

Thanks for your time here, Hossa, and good luck wherever you land. Hope the money’s worth it.

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  1. Garth says:

    First off, interesting quote from Kenny:

    "As I've said all along, we only have so much cap room. We have players that I'm not interested in losing."

    I love it.  The problem I had with them re-signing him was potentially putting him ahead of other players that have been there longer.

     

    And dude, I'm sorry, but you're being naive.  $6M for the first couple years for an average of $3.75-$4M is a FAR cry from $7-8M a year for 4-6 years.

    Tell me this, what sounds better to you as the player: $37-40M over 10 years of the same amount over, say 5-6 years?

    Yeah, that's what I thought.

    OR, look at it this way: last year he made $7.4, add that to the $40M he MIGHT make if he plays the entirety of the 10-year deal that's on the table.  That's $47M over 11 years.

    Last year, he turned down EIGHTY-ONE MILLION over NINE years from Deadmonton.  That puts him, after 11 years, nearly thirty-five million down from what the Edmonton offer was.

    And honestly, none of us has any right to criticize him for doing exactly what we all assumed (and were OK with) he would do when he signed with us

    Frankly, the worst thing about this whole situation for me is that, after a year of talking about the amazing depth we have as an organization, SO MANY PEOPLE are apparently willing to throw a significant chunk of that depth away to keep Hossa, when it was the depth that showed up in the playoffs when Hossa didn't…

    Sorry, late night ranting.  I should go to bed.

     

    Also, sorry for all the caps.

  2. Hossa's not gone yet, he's testing the waters.  There is a glimer of hope he stays a Red Wing.

    I guess thats called "keeping positive".

  3. Garth says:

    I love this deal.  Chicago did EXACTLY what I was afraid Detroit was going to do, commit too much for too long and fuck over their future.

    Chicago will be tough this year, until Hossa disappears in the playoffs, and Hossa will have another year of losing against his former team.

    And Chicago's got some real question marks in July 2010…

  4. Pete K says:

    good deal for hossa, he'll get his cup at some point in those 12 years. good deal for chicago, assuming they can handle the cap when toews and kane get to be FAs. it's basically the same thing we did for franzen, just with a little bigger salary.

  5. Megan Saler says:

    Garth, I totally agree with you.

     

    Pete, I'm afraid you might be mistaken. With Hossa locked in at that price for 12 years, and given all the other signing they're going to need to do this off-season, it's gonna be very difficult for them to sign both Kane and Toews next summer. If they don't win it next year (which they more than likely will not) it's gonna be quite a while before they have a chance again. Especially if this is the way Tallon's gonna manage. He claims it's not messing up their future, but I don't know what salary cap he's looking at. Kane and Toews will probably both want near Crosby money, and Chicago can barely afford one at that price. I think that in the long run, this signing is gonna hurt Chicago.

     

    Meanwhile, I don't think it hurts Detroit at all. We get to keep our depth. Hudler will most likely be back. Plus we'll have room to go out and sign another support type player. And if Lils can get healty, Kenny can make a trade with one of our defensemen. Or he can leave that extra cap space and maybe make a deal at the deadline.

     

    I'm interested to see how the summer will unfold, now that we have options. If we had signed Hossa, we would not have options for anything else. And probably would've ended up playing Abdelkader before he's ready.

  6. Baroque says:

    Well, Hossa said he wanted a real lifetime deal similar to Zetterberg's, and now he's got it.  I hope it makes him happy.

     

    Given the close friendship between Kopecky and Hossa, anyone else think that Holland not offering Kopy a contract was a factor (probably much less than the dollars, but still there) in this deal?  If that is the case, then I'm very happy Holland didn't use two contracts and two roster spaces for essentially keeping one player.

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