Peak Battle

(my final use of that playoffs-as-mountain-climb device)

This is the battle that decides it all: who gets to stay on top of the mountain, and who gets thrown off the peak. One game to seal one team’s destiny, or in the case of the other, one game to start the building of one. If Game 7′s in general are the height of the hockey experience, Stanley Cup Final Game 7′s have to be up there in the upper reaches of the atmosphere.

That’s fitting, because this is going to be a breathless night for the fans. Win or lose, surviving this night without losing a good decade off the end of our lives from the stress is going to be tough.

It’s the awesome finality of Game 7 that has me feeling nauseated already this morning. There’s no opportunity to respond to a loss with a dominating performance. There’s very little room for making up for your mistakes. It can go either way. It has to be one of the few times a stat showing such a definitive home team advantage–SCF Finals Game 7′s are 12-2 historically for the home team–provides so little comfort.

Stats mean nothing. What matters is what the two teams do on the ice, tonight. This game is going to be epic. Both teams know what’s at stake, and both teams will be at their best. It really will be a battle.

It’s going to be awesome to watch. It’s going to be terrible to watch. I can’t wait for the puck drop, and I dread it at the same time. The paradox of a fan faced with a Game 7: complete confidence in his or her team, but in the same space, nervousness and fear.

Despite the nervousness and fear, I know this:

The Red Wings can do it. They will do it.

And we’ll look back at tonight as a great, historic moment, as we forget the stress-induced agony of watching.

Tonight the Cup returns to Detroit, to the ice of Joe Louis Arena. And Nick Lidstrom will hoist it again.

After the Wings throw the Penguins down the mountainside.

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  1. John W. says:

    "After the Wings throw the Penguins off the iceberg where an angry octopus awaits below."

    There, all fixed ;)

  2. hockeychic says:

    You are so right, I'm dreading the game and excited at the same time.

    GO WINGS!

  3. Megan Saler says:

    I can already feel a tight knot growing between my shoulders.

  4. ludmeister says:

    I'm pretty confident in the Wings chances.  I don't really want to even consider Pittsburgh's chances.  I'm not feeling much of anything today.

     

    Probably just a defense mechanism.  I'm praying for the Wings to score first, early, and often.

  5. Jason says:

    Alright, everyone can breathe easy now! because I ran a sophisticated computer simulation last night of tonight's game 7, and Pavel had a goal and two assists, Hossa banged home two on the PP, and Hank scored a huge game-tying shortie mid-way through the second. It was hard fought game, but Detroit pulled it out!

    Of course, by "sophisticated computer simulation" I mean NHL 96 on the SNES; Lidstrom was paired with Vladdie Konstantinov; Yzerman, Fedorov and Ciccarelli were on my second PP unit, we were playing the Quebec Nordiques in the Final, and, uh, I, using the miraculous create-a-player technology of mid-90s sports games, scored the game-winning goal with 2:30 left in the third period (I was paired with Paul Coffey). I credit strong special-teams play, especially scoring on key penalties to Sakic and Forsberg, and the tireless backchecking of Pavel and Hank, who dogged Quebec's forwards all night en route to that 6-3 victory!

    I feel so much better now. :-)

  6. Keith says:

    I didn't sleep well last night and I'm keeping the bathroom within running distance. Anyone else feeling this way?

     

    Its weird I'm positive we'll win but the dread of losing far outweighs the positive so I still feel awful. Does that make any sense?

  7. Matt Saler says:

    John,

    Ha, yeah, that's better.

    hockeychic,

    Kinda paralyzing isn't it? Haven't gotten much done today….

    Meg,

    I've just got a bit of a pit in my stomach.

    ludmeister,

    I'm trying not to consider Pittsburgh's chances. I can't breathe when I do that.

    Scoring first is key, scoring often is key-er. I'm afraid it'll be close, but I'd love a surprise in the form of a dominant Wings performance.

    Jason,

    I feel much better now.

    Keith,

    Its weird I’m positive we’ll win but the dread of losing far outweighs the positive so I still feel awful. Does that make any sense?

    That's a great way of putting it. It makes perfect sense.

  8. John W. says:

    Well, I'm off to the D, enjoy the game guys!!!

  9. Richter says:

    A true Stanley Cup Championship team does not lose a game 7 at home. Not to mention Babcock getting outcoached by a rookie and Crosby only playing half the game. Great going, Mike. Hopefully, a number of changes with be made both on the bench and behind it. There was absolutely no excuse for tonight's loss. None at all.

  10. Baroque says:

    Fire Babcock?

     

    Climb a tree, then, because there will be a stampede of several other teams tossing their coaches overboard if they don't already have an opening to try to hire him.

     

    Wait until the injuries are revealed, and see how much of a team Babcock actually had to work with.  He may have had a lot less available than the Penguins did.

     

    And as for the crappy end of the season … I think the same thing now that I thought after last season and after the season before that: I *#$%@& love this team, I love their character, I love their heart, I love their determination, I love the way they avoid cliques and play as a team, I love the style of hockey they play – and I wouldn’t trade them for any other team in the league, regardless of the end result of a particular season.

    I am so proud of this team, and in my eyes they are always champions as long as they never give up.

    Running on fumes is not the same thing as quitting.  Not even close.

     

  11. John W. says:

    Well I'm home, and first, Richter, STFU.

    Second, congrats to the Pens you guys bounced back from the 5-0 ass whooping with 2 pretty much perfect games, well done.

    I actually don't feel as bad as I thought I would, certainly not as bad as after losing to Anaheim in '07. I mean, we lost by 1 goal in Game 7 of the SCF the year after winning the dang thing, I can think of 28 other teams and their fans that would kill for that.

    I swear, if I wasn't actually at the game, I would have sworn I was watching a tape of Game 6, it was practically a carbon copy.

    After watching these last 2 games, it does seem my claim of a lack of effort in Game 6 was wrong. It seems to me the strategy was, possibly due to a low fuel tank, to try to shut it down defensively and conserve energy for 40 minutes, and then throw eveything you have at them in the 3rd. Couple problems though, the major one is if you're gonna play all defense for 40 minutes, you better not keep frigging turning the puck over on every possession, and my God, I didn't catch who turned it over on the first goal, but WTF? You can't fall behind 2 goals with that strategy, and they did it both games by handing the Pens goals from turnovers. The other problem is this was a home game, and the way they played in the 1st absolutely killed the crowd. We all found it virtually impossible to cheer when you never have the puck and spend the entire time yelling the likes of "get the fcking puck out", "stopping turning the Goddammed puck over", and "stop passing it right to the other freaking team." Even though we killed the Pens pp in the first (which wasn't all that good of a kill), which did give the crowd a big lift, it was short lived, as the entire rest of the period looked like a penalty kill, as the Pens had the puck the entire time. With the home crowd ready to explode at the start of the game, you have to push, push, push, and they didn't, and I'm wondering if it wasn't because they simple didn't have it in them to do it.

    The whole key to the game, and the entire series is pretty simple: the Pens were by far the more aggressive team. They forechecked harder, stood up at the defensive blueline whereas we backed in, they forced us to the outside when we did get in, and they were more aggressive offensively as well. They dictated the play, and that doesn't happen to the Wings very often.

    Now for pretty much my only officiating complaint, and this really ties into the last paragraph. What is the one way to beat a team that is aggressive defensively and stands up at the blueline? Dump and chase. The problem, the Wings were not allowed to dump and chase for the entire series, because every single time they did, they were interfered with. Just look at the Pens 2nd goal. What happened 20 seconds before the 2 on 1? Hal Gill got away with the most blatant, obvious, howthehelldoyounotcallapenatly interference of the series. He must have been engaged with our player for a full 8 seconds after the puck was behind him. Ten times worse than the Ericsson penalty that led to the winning goal in Game 3. And this happened all series. Now I'm not saying that our PP would have scored and made a difference in this series, because our PP has been awful. What I am saying, is if this was called at the beginning of the series, the Pens D would have been forced to stop doing it, and it would have opened up the ice a lot more for ust. When you take away neutral zone speed, and interfere on the dump and chase, it pretty much handcuffs a team. Give Pittsburgh credit, they were allowed to do it, so they did.

    Now when we did manage to get control in the offensive zone, the Pens were very good at keeping us to the outside, and thus were able to block every frigging shot we could muster. Again, well done.

    Truth is, after the first, which ended 0-0, Pittsburgh did not outplay the Wings, they really didn't have much offense going, but they capitalized on our mistakes and didn't make really any mistakes of their own, and that's how you win a road playoff game, pure and simple. Along those lines, I'm sure we'll here how "heroic" Fleury was in this game, but he didn't have to do a damned thing until the final few minutes of the game. The Wings could have easily won this game 1-0.

    We all saw it coming starting in the Ducks series, turnovers just killed this team. Truth is, they have been committing that first-goal turnover the entire series, Osgood has just been bailing them out, and it bit them hard tonight.

    I hit on it before, but our PP has just been awful, save for Game 5. Even with all the other stuff I mentioned before, a half-way competent PP in any of the last 3 losses and this series is completely different. We never get the puck down low, rely way to much on point shots and tips, which allows the Pens to block every shot and leads to one and dones. We just need more looks on the PP to throw at the other team, it's too predictable.

    Now a few random game thoughts:

    Hitting the post after Big E scores, beyond cruel.

    Watching the puck lay there with 3 seconds left waiting for Nick to put him home, ditto.

    Watching Bettman get booed outta the building, priceless.

    It'll be interesting to sit back and watch the next few weeks for what happens to this team with our free agents and such, and also to hear (hopefully) what was wrong with a lot of our players. It had to be more than fatigue, we seemed to play better during the 5 games in 8 days than the 2 games in 6 days. I have a feeling some guys were very hurt. We'll see…

  12. Baroque says:

    John W. -

     

    George Malik had a bit on injuries – Sammy, Homer, Draper really banged up, Cleary wouldn't be playing in the regular season, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Datsyuk all hurt a lot worse than they let on, Zetterberg at about 70% (and George noticed he changed gloves in the Chicago series, and one had extra plastic support – he figures something has to be broken or torn there).

     

    Any Wings fan knows that the road through the playoffs is generally tougher in the Western conference, and in this season clearly the Penguins had an easier time from the standpoint of getting pounded.

  13. John W. says:

    Yep you're right Baroque. I think we all know Pittsburgh would have never survived the Anaheim series.

  14. jvwalt says:

    Ditto to many of John W's comments. Game 7 was a carbon copy of Game 6, and I do believe we'll get some answers when the postseason injury list comes out. 

     

    The Penguins played an excellent game, especially on defense. They swarmed, they battled, they didn't give the Wings any room for their usual puck-possession game. Fleury was good enough in key spots — and, honestly, he was a bit better than Ozzie in both of the last two games. As in Game 6, the Pens' "non-stars" carried the load; the Staal line was especially outstanding, and their relatively anonymous defense corps was brilliant. (It was the first time in the entire postseason that the Wings' third and fourth lines didn't outshine the competition.) 

     

    I think the Wings could have adjusted quicker; well into the third period, they were doing things that clearly weren't working. They kept trying to carry the puck into the offensive zone when the Pens were putting up a wall at the blue line. They kept making their trademark short passes in their own end, when the Pens were shutting down the passing lanes. Individual Wings spent way too much time trying to penetrate the defense on their own, carrying the puck harmlessly around the boards until the Pens swarmed the puck and took it away.  

     

    And John W, to answer your question about turnovers, it was Brad Stuart who coughed up the puck on both Pens goals. The Wings didn't make very many mistakes at all — really, fewer than in most of the other SCF games — but the Pens capitalized on the mistakes that were made. 

  15. John W. says:

    "kept trying to carry the puck into the offensive zone when the Pens were putting up a wall at the blue line."

    That goes back to my interference rant. I really don't know what they could have done differently, when they dumped, the chaser got cut off everytime, uncalled. It's tuff when you can't skate in or dump it in.

  16. hockeychic says:

    John W – you make a lot of good points.  I thought the Wings started strong but after the PK, they did not get the boost I expected and they seemed to be running around most of the first period.  Really things that we have noticed all year seemed to have caught up with them in the SCF, slow starts, turnovers, running around too much in the defensive zone and the PK.  The PK was not a problem in Games 5, 6, & 7 but earlier in the series.  I know that injuries play a huge part and I have to think the list of people injured is longer and much deeper than we know.  Holmstrom, Hudler, Hossa, Datsyuk, etc….

     

    As others have said, the Pens were able to capitalize on the Wings' mistakes and we are now stuck with looking at images of Crosby hoisting the Cup until  next June.

  17. Marlon says:

    "We are now stuck with looking at images of Crosby hoisting the Cup until next June."

    How about for the next 5-10 years?

     

    One thing to mention, and yes, this is sour grapes, but after the first goal by Stuart's giveaway, NBC did a replay of it and the Wings would have had a case to argue that there should have been an icing call on whoever the Penguin was that dumped the puck into the zone – Stuart played it behind the icing line and the whistle should have gone.

     

    The officiating was terrible, and if McReary and his buddy were the best in the league, then this league is in major trouble. It's one thing to let soft penalties go but when you rule with an iron fist throughout the entire regular season then all of a sudden use a different rule book in the Finals, something's wrong – ie. John's interference rant.

     

    Icing, offsides, and faceoff miscues have been my biggest nitpick. Zetterberg's been tossed out of the faceoff circle so many times for just standing there, one team benefitted from icings whereas the other team didn't – see Rafalski, game 6, and they let all this crap slide yet they've got their magnifying glass out to see if a play is in fact offside when it actually is or isn't.

     

    Okay, that's enough about the officiationg because that's pretty much a cop-out. The better team won. The hungriest team won. The team who got so far last year, only to lose on their ice won. I think this might be a pretty good wakeup call for a guy like Zetterberg (I'm not doubting his heart and I love the guy), to go from a winning team to losing it all in the finals. He's been on both sides now, and that can only make him even stronger than before.

     

    Kudos to the Red Wing fans who stuck around and watched the Penguins skate around. That would have been very hard for me to do, and they actually applauded unlike those "great" fans in Pittsburgh. If you fans were so great, you wouldn't have let your team slide into bankrupcy protection twice. Just saying.

     

    Shame on Crosby for being too busy to celebrate with his trainers to shake hands with the Red Wings after the game. The leaders of the Red Wings waited at centre ice to congratulate him, then skated away when they realized he wasn't going to give them the time. I believe he only shook 4 or 5 Wings' hands. I do not see the "heat of the moment" or his youthfulness as a viable excuse. You are the Captain. Lead by example.

     

    I can't wait for the injury report to come out as it might soften the blow a little bit, seeing how banged up and bruised the Wings were, but in my eyes that's not really an excuse – I'm sure Pittsburgh was just as damaged. I think we should wait until then before we actually throw Hossa under the bus because while he's not known to be a clutch playoff performer (last season being an exception), his change from regular season and playoffs is night and day. We all know Datsyuk was walking wounded, Nick was hurt, Rafalski was uncharacteristic in his play, even Stuart and Kronwall gave away the puck more than we've ever seen them, and ultimately it cost them the series.

  18. jvwalt says:

    If Malik's got the injuries right, that would explain a lot. Almost everything, in fact, except for Hossa. I'm willing to wait till we get the official injury list; he might be on it. If not, well, his play speaks for itself. 

  19. Baroque says:

    Zetterberg at 70% still better than Crosby at nearly full strength.

    /shakes head

     

    Well, at least there is ESPN.  They don't really know hockey exists, so after a few days Crosby should be gone from their commercials, anyway.  :)

     

    I'll be glad to see the Pens trolls crawl back under their rocks.  The actual fans were fine, but no other team has had the number of classless, whining, venomous, small-minded, petty little insignificant twits rooting for them on the internet.  Seriously, no wonder the rest of the NHL is growing to despise the Penguins.  I hope they have the worst Cup hangover ever and go right back to the old next-year tradition of a first round exit or missing the playoffs altogether.  What a bunch of worthless manure.

  20. Richter says:

    Hey John W……..I don't know what "STFU" means but I'll extend the same to you. I wasn't directing my comment toward you and I'd say something else but don't want to be libelous. Got it? Actually, Johnny……..and in addition to being a "jackass" you're probably just an adult male hockey groupie with no life. That's fairly obvious. Get one instead of satisfying your hockey fantasies through a computer. Bet you couldn't wait to get home to your desktop early this morning. You're a great pretender of knowing the actual game and I wonder what you'll do in the off season without an active message board?

    PS……..you're no match for Saler, either. He's definitely more astute of and to the game than you are. Not to mention tactful. That's probably why this site is his and not yours. Although I do perceive you to be a "literate jackass" 'cause you can, at least, spell. I'll give you that.

  21. John W. says:

    Richter, the fact that you are calling for Babcock's head really says all there is to say about your hockey "knowledge." I don't need to defend myself to you in the slightest.

    Have a good day, after you trade in all of your Red Wings gear, you don't deserve it.

  22. Baroque says:

    To: The Detroit Red Wings organization

    Re: Head Coach Mike Babcock

     

    Sincere condolences on your recent loss.  Unfortunately, it appears that your head coach has exceeded his shelf life.  It is difficult, but happens to every team at some point.  The only way to get past it is to fire him as soon as the first signs of being "tuned out" appear; cutting him loose and moving on as quickly as possible is really the best option. 

     

    Please feel free to contact us for any advice in the matter – or to give us a heads-up to provide him a potential employment opportunity with our organization, so you do not have to worry about paying him the remainder of his contract.

     

    Regards,

    Most of the rest of the teams in the NHL

     
    :)

  23. Megan Saler says:

    Richter,

    You are the one who has no idea the he's talking about. A knowledgeable hockey fan and a true Wings fan would know that if you have Babcock on your side, you don't freaking let him go. Did you say the same about Scotty Bowman after 1995? Babcock is not Bowman, but he's the closest thing the league has right now. I for one hope he spends his whole career here and helps us bring the Cup back where it belongs many times. The fact that you accuse John of not knowing what he's talking about…it's unbelievable. John is one of the best commenters here, and we'd take him over you any day.

     

    Baroque, I thank you for keeping the mood light and making me laugh no matter what. I hope you continue to comment here. If not, I know I can find you over at A2Y, trying to keep those boys in line. ;-)

     

    Something that brightened my day and hope does the same for all of you: When Gary. Ass Bettman went over to Mr. I to shake his hand, Ilitch just kept walking. I love that man. Clearest picture you'll get of the relationship between the Red Wings organization and that idiot they call the commissioner.

     

  24. Marlon says:

    Megan's right, Babcock isn't Scotty Bowman… But he's as close as they get.

     

    Detroit does not and will not cut Babcock loose. He's too good of a coach. This isn't Dave Lewis we're talking about, this is Mike Babcock. 3 Final appearances in what, 4 years? 5 years? One of which ending in a win? The idea that the Wings would fire him is ludicrous.

  25. JImmy says:

    First penalty slashing to Brad Stuart.

    Puck, hard up the boards, NO! off Malkin, Brad Stuart.

    1-0.

    Pinch, Brad Stuart.

    2-0.

    Thanks Brad Stuart for having your head in the game.

  26. Baroque says:

    Baroque, I thank you for keeping the mood light and making me laugh no matter what. I hope you continue to comment here. If not, I know I can find you over at A2Y, trying to keep those boys in line.

     

    I try.  I figure someone has to chaperone that herd of reprobates, and apparently I am the designated grownup.  I mean, if no one keeps an eye on them they will start running with scissors and using chairs as stepstools – and who knows what kind of trouble that could lead to!  :)

  27. John W. says:

    Hehe Baroque, I like that letter. Right now, I think my two favorite coaches are Babs and Bylsma. To me they are the 2 classiest coaches in the league. Even through the disappointment of losing last night, I felt a certain pride in knowing the Bylsma is from Michigan, he did a heck of a job turning that team around. I really wouldn't mind losing nearly as much if freaking Crosby wasn't on that team. Just pisses me off to no end having to see Bettman hand that punk the Cup, with Bettman thinking, "Everything went to plan." And no I'm not crying conspiracy, but there's no doubt that's who he wanted to win.

    I just can't wait until next season when I'm sure we'll see countless Versus commercials of the Wings winning Game 5, 5-0, because that's what they do right? Show the team that lost the Finals but won Game 5 right?

  28. Matt Saler says:

    Great discussion here, guys. Baroque, thanks especially for your first post-game comment. It brought me back from some frustration and other negative emotion after the game that might have had me saying things I would have regretted.

    John,

    I'm glad you were able to be there. Good analysis.Not much more I can add.

    Baroque,

    Looking at the names listed as injured, it's amazing the Wings even got this far. This team really did itself proud in its fight through the playoffs.

    Gotta be honest: if Zetterberg was that injured, my respect for the guy just shot up a mile. He had a heck of a series, and really, a heck of a playoff. Offensive stats weren't spectacular, but his shutting down of Crosby alone has to be one of the great feats of the past decade if not beyond.

    Using that argument about the difference between the two Conferences definitely flies here, but I can just imagine trying to use it anywhere else. It'll be all about how the Wings just didn't have the stones to cope with even a light run ("#8 Anaheim?! Come on!") whereas the Pens faced real adversity. Gag me.

    jvwalt,

    Yeah… Stuart. He did stuff last night that I'll not easily forget. He had such a great playoff, but could hardly have finished the run worse. He and Kronwall both, really. I'm sure they were banged up, but wow. Their "battling through" was a little less inspiring…

    hockeychic,

    we are now stuck with looking at images of Crosby hoisting the Cup until  next June.

    That's why I couldn't bring myself to watch the Cup presentation. We'll be seeing it a thousand times anyway.Today, those pictures look Photoshopped. Hard to believe his name will be on it after just four years. I don't begrude Crosby a Cup at some point in his career (he is a great player, after all), but this is too much success, too soon.

    Marlon,

    No argument on your comments about the officiating. That's a serious problem at the NHL level (not just in relation to the Wings), and is something they have to deal with quickly. Problem is, unlike the NFL, the NHL's current stance is to never go against their refs. Instead, they stand by them no matter how badly they frack up.

    You're right about Zetterberg and the same could go for the others. This has to make them want it more, even through the discouraging thoughts like "All that pain, for this?!"

    The fans at the Joe were better than I was. I couldn't watch beyond the Conn Smythe presentation. Seeing Crosby take the Cup would have been too much.

    Dead on about Crosby's snub. May not have been on purpose (he's young, dumb, and distracted like a raccoon to a shiny object), but that's just another piece of evidence against his readiness for this kind of honor. So immature, and now he's at the top of the sport. It shouldn't work that way. Oh well.

    Not sure we can assume Pittsburgh was as injured. They really didn't have a physical run, unlike the Wings, who had to deal with the professional goons of Anaheim and a really nasty little team in Chicago.

    jvwalt,

    Looks like Hossa wasn't hurt, just dealing with mental and emotionl issues. While on one hand, I completely understand, on the other, the guy's a professional being paid millions of dollars to put the puck in the net. I'm really not impressed. Hossa's not the first free agent to face his former team in the playoffs, surely, and while his circumstances were pretty exceptional, I don't consider them an excuse. Relative to a guy like Zetterberg, Marian failed to answer the bell.

    Obviously, guys like Zetterberg, Lidstrom and Datsyuk are truly exceptional and I can't hold it against Hossa that he's not on their level, but even accounting for that, he was a major disappointment. If I had to choose today, I'm not sure I'd re-sign him. If he really isn't a playoff performer (this run may not be the best indicator given the circumstances), he's not worth it. Maybe if more comes out about his situation, or something, I'd reconsider my opinion, but right now, I'm not a fan of re-signing him.

    Baroque,

    Totally with you on the Pittsburgh fans. I'm thrilled that none have trolled OtW. I think I pissed off Pensblog via Twitter earlier in the round to the point where they wouldn't even think it worthwhile to send their minions over. Couldn't be happier about it.

    Out of spite last night, I said Pittsburgh won't make the playoffs next year. Too bad this isn't a Scandinavian myth where my "curse" would mean something. But I do think it's not unlikely they miss. They showed an ability to face the challenge of making the Finals again once. Doing it again is even tougher, especially when you don't have vengence driving you.

    "Richter,"

    What Meg said. I'll take John's worst ever comment over your most reasonable any day. Thing is, "worst" and "reasonable" don't really apply to your relative cases.

    Baroque,

    Heh. Great letter! I think with the exception of Pittsburgh (have to be high on Bylsma now), all other 28 teams would take Babcock in a heartbeat. No question.

    Meg,

    Dead on about Babcock. Best coach in the NHL today. If we can hold on to him for the rest of his career, the Wings will be up at Montreal Cup levels by the time he's done.

    Yeah, that Ilitch story really made my day. It's even better when you remember that Bettman is like Ilitch's employee. If I got snubbed like that by one of my bosses, I'd be seriously worried about my job. Too bad so many other owners love the guy.

    Marlon,

    Yeah, Conference Finals, Finals, Finals. Not a bad series of finishing points.

    Jimmy,

    Not Stuey's best game, for sure. I hope we get First Three Rounds Stuart next year, not Last Three Games Stuart.

    Baroque,

    Hey, I use chairs as stepstools! If you don't have a dedicated stepstool, what's a guy supposed to do?

    John,

    Agreed on Babs and Bylsma. Babs we know exudes class, but Bylsma was a real nice surprise. He makes a good story, too, though it is ruined by the whole Crosby angle.

    Oh, they'll so the Wings, but it won't be the 5-0 game…. They'll emphasize the Wings losing in an effort to make the case that they're on the decline. Wouldn't be surprised if they don't throw in some Islanders/Oilers imagery for the older fans, too. Ugh.

  29. John W. says:

    "Using that argument about the difference between the two Conferences definitely flies here"

    "I said Pittsburgh won’t make the playoffs next year."

    I was thinking about that before the series started. What my thoughts then were, and this series doesn't change it, is this: if these 2 teams switched conferences, the Wings, in the East, would make the Finals, at worse, 4 outta outta the next 5 years, and the Pens, in the West, at best, would make the playoffs 4 of the next 5 years, and maybe the Finals once. They would not have beaten Anaheim this year, and would not have beaten the Wings if we were even 10% healthier than we were. Heck, give us Pav back in Game 3 and we probably win the series in 5.

    Another thing I thought about that pisses me off is do you remember back in Game 3 against the Jackets when Ken and Mick intervied Bettman, and Mickey asked him, point blank, if he liked how the game was being called with every interference and hook, hold etc being called? Bettman responded that he loved how the game was called, and that the Wings should like it too, as it favors the more skilled teams. So my question is, why do you decide to stop calling all interference penalties all of a sudden? I mean, jeeze, if interference was a penalty, Hal Gill would be forced into retirement, it's his sole method of defense. His interfence (read: mugging), of Sammy I believe it was, right before the Pens 2nd goal, was right in front of me and every person in the building was screaming for a call. There wasn't even a question about it. Somewhere along the line we took a time maching back to 1995. I wonder what Bettman's response would be if he was asked the same question about officiating now that they call nothing. Is it really too much to ask to have the same "interpretation" of the rules in the regular season and in each round of the playoffs? I guess it is.

  30. Baroque says:

    @ Matt -

     

    As long as it isn't one of those office chairs with wheels, you're fine.

     

    (It's a minor miracle that I haven't slipped yet and cracked my skull wide open …)  :)

  31. Brian says:

    "Shame on Crosby for being too busy to celebrate with his trainers to shake hands with the Red Wings after the game. The leaders of the Red Wings waited at centre ice to congratulate him, then skated away when they realized he wasn’t going to give them the time."

    If Draper and Lidstrom wanted to shake Sid's hand so bad, all they had to do was wait 30 seconds longer as he and some other Pens had joined the back of the line where the coaches were and he shook hands with at least Babcock, Osgood, Zetterberg, and Franzen (based on NBC's camera). But many of the Wings skated off the ice instead and decided to complain. I've watched the game on replay twice today and the handshakes were definitely started prematurely while a lot of the team was still celebrating.

    Not to mention some hypocrisy in taking issue with this. Chelios has skipped handshakes ON PURPOSE after losing and apparently Draper was okay with that. But when it happens in the confusion of a Game 7 Finals post-game celebration BY ACCIDENT all of a sudden Draper takes issue? Sour grapes on Draper's part.

  32. Megan Saler says:

    Baroque,

     

    I don't think we have any wheeled chairs in the apartment, so you shouldn't have to worry about Matt. He also shouldn't have to use chairs at all, because he's quite tall.

  33. John W. says:

    Crosby is supposedly the Captain. He's supposed to be held to higher standards right? Captains lead their team thru the line, pure and simple. If he doesn't want to, he should relinquish the C. They aren't just given (well in Pittsburgh they are apparently), they are earned, and he has never earned the C, unless you consider being 3rd man in and punching the guy in the balls "earning it."

  34. Matt Saler says:

    Brian,

    The point is that Crosby should have had a quick celebration session, and then gotten himself to the head of the line to lead his team through the handshake. In that situation (at the losing team's arena), the winners are on the losing team's timetable. If those guys want to get off, you do the tradition, and then get back to the celebration. Crosby, as the ostensible leader of the Pens, should have been first in line. He had all night to celebrate, and just had that one small duty to fulfill.

    I understand Crosby's excitement and exuberance, but as the guy with the 'C' on his jersey, it was his responsibility to make a point of shaking everyone's hand, and most of all Lidstrom's. It's a matter of respect. The issue is precisely that it was accidental. I don't begrudge the guy a well-earned celebration, but there's an certain protocol that's to be followed. It's a detail that should not have been overlooked by the Kid, who showed his youth big time there.

    I don't condone what Chelios did, either. And I'm sure in the lockerroom he heard about it. You don't really expect Draper and the others to speak out publically against  teammate, do you?

    As for Lidstrom waiting… really? You just lost a Game 7 in your building in front of your fans and you had the final shot of the game (with all the added pain missing that chance brings), and you're supposed to just hang around until the leader of the other team finds the time to perform a basic task that his teammates found the time to do in the midst of their own celebration? I don't blame Lidstrom one bit for leaving the ice at that point.

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