Kronwall Ejected For Hit on Havlat (Updated w/ Video)

Update (23. May, 12:29 AM): Note that the below is an emotional response to the event. Now that I’ve calmed down, I back off my statement implying that a suspension is automatic, though I will say that if one is handed down, I won’t be surprised.

This does not, however, mean I back off my feeling that the punishment already meted out was excessive. Kronwall’s play was entirely legal and clean, and should not have gotten any penalty, let alone a major and a misconduct. Two minutes for anything would have been too much. That was a hockey play. - Matt

Update (10:00 PM): Found a better-quality video:


Havlat is out for the game.

In-game update: 3-3 tie after two. I’m still shell-shocked following the final five minutes of the period. The Wings turned “it” on in a major way to storm back from a 3-0 deficit. The third is going to be epic. - Matt

Game 3 has not been going the Wings’ way. On top of being down 2-0 at he first intermission, they will be without the services of hard-hitting Nik Kronwall for the remainder of the game for the huge hit he laid on Martin Havlat at 13:08. Havlat took something of a suicide pass from a teammate, lost the puck in his feet, and found himself in dreamland after Kronwall’s shoulder connected with his chin.

Kronwall and a prone Havlat were immediately swarmed by angry Hawks in a scrum leading to penalties for both Franzen and Byfuglien. Kronwall, meanwhile, was slapped with a five-minute interference major and a game misconduct despite the fact that he didn’t leave his feet, hit with his shoulder, and did it all with the puck right there.

Despite the NHL’s leniency so far this post-season, I consider it a safe bet that Nik will get suspended for at least a game. It was a big hit, and unfortunately knocked Havlat out, but was not a dirty play and was not a penalty. It was an awful call, but I have no faith in the NHL to make it right on further review.

You know something’s wrong with the world when everyone on Versus claims it was an excessive penalty.

Video when it appears on YouTube.

In other news, the Wings need to wake up. They’re lucky they’re not down 5-0. I guess they deserve some credit for the fact that it’s just 2-0, but they need to turn the tables in the next forty.

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Comments

  1. Kaycee says:

    It's ridiculous to think that Kronwall will be suspended for that hit. It was a clean hit and just because Havlat got "layed-out" doesn't make it illegal. Kronwall should have never received a major in the first place but it was obvious that the officials were sympathetic towards both Havlat and the Hawks. I guess they were more concerned with the severity of the hit than the legality (of the hit). Had Havlat got up and skated off there would be no reason for comment(s). Someone show me where the rules state that you can't hit another player as hard as Kronwall hit Havlat. Of course, nobody wants to see another player get hurt but this was totally biased and was probably detremental to the outcome of the game. That is how Kronwall plays the game but it still doesn't make it illegal. Granted, he has a reputation for "hitting" but not a reputation as a "dirty player". Detroit doesn't have any "dirty players". "Chippy", maybe but certainly not "dirty" as management wouldn't tolerate it. It's not the team's style of play and you don't win Stanley Cups playing "dirty. Bowman always knew it, Babcock knows it and so does Holland. And, why didn't Babcock protest Kronwall's ejection let alone the penalty? The guy never left his feet and Babcock never even asked for an explanation from the officials. I do not understand this.

    Datsyuk was definitely missed. His lack of presence was quite obvious and I think that had he played the outcome would've been quite different.

  2. Fuck Matt Saler says:

    You're a f****** idiot. It was a high elbow to the face. Not illegal? You quite possibly be the dumbest human being on the face of this planet. They have been trying to make this kind of hit illegal for years in the NHL, no help to the morons on versus….or you for that matter. If you think this hit is clean, I strongly suggest you go take up hockey, get in a league, tell some guy to elbow you in the face at full force, then claim its not a dirty hit, or not a penalty. You are everything that is wrong with hockey.

  3. Matt Saler says:

    Jackass posting at 11:51,

    You're done here.

  4. John W. says:

    Wow, Kronwall must be an anatomic anamoly, his "elbow" must be in the spot where his shoulder should be. It was a shoulder hit (meaning CLEAN) and anyone that says otherwise is just seeing what they want to see, nothing more, nothing less, and that includes the league.

  5. Megan Saler says:

    You said it, John. Totally clean hit. Hard hit, and a shame to see Havlat injured on the play, but this is hockey people. If it was an elbow or leaving the feet, I would be upset about the calls, but upset at Kronwall, not at the officials. It was clean all the way. People are gonna get hit hard and sometimes they'll get their bells rung because of it. Even Edzo, Mr. I worship the Black Hawks, said it was clean. Given everything the league has let go these playoffs, stuff that actually deserved suspensions, I'd like to think Kronner won't get suspended. If that's the case, he's gonna have to keep his head up on Sunday. The Hawks are a team that will go for revenge.

  6. Megan Saler says:

    Oh, and I meant to address the idiot. Strong statements from a coward that won't even post their name.

  7. Nathan says:

    It was painful to watch Havlat on the ice. He was out cold, and at the time I thought he might be dead … eyes open, staring at the ceiling.

    I guess I feel that there is some responsibility on the part of the hitter to avoid excessive force. Just because the rules say you can legally kill a guy doesn't mean you should.

    I always hated Scott Stevens for that reason – sure he was a great defenseman who legally hit harder than anyone else in the league. However, neither Kariya orLindros were ever the same after running into him – a loss for all of hockey. Stevens' hits were legal … but I think the game lost overall, just as it did tonight – we shall see if Havlat ever fully recovers.

    Players should take responsibility for injuring other players on the ice, even if they are following the rules. Hockey is a rough sport … injuries are going to happen. However, Kromwall knew he had Havlat lined up, it was a huge hit. Had Kromwall held back just a touch when he realized Havlat was going to get annihilated it still would have been momentum shifting and we would still have one of Hockey's more entertaining players skating around, instead of in a hospital bed.

    A lot of folks thought it was the wrong call tonight … I'm not sure what I think. However, I do think when a player is severely injured, the player who inflicts said injury should suffer some punishment … even if the action causing injury was within the rules.

    Tough call tonight, but I think we need to protect our stars – there are too few of them. Havlat was a highlight-reel player who was immensely entertaining. Lets hope there are more highlights in his future.

  8. Kaycee says:

    Nathan……….no such thing as hitting someone "too hard". Of course, just as long as it's legal which this was. No "flagrant fouls" like in basketball.

  9. Nathan says:

    It was legal, but debatable whether it was too hard. Havlat was near dead. I'd rather have the stars of the game playing on the ice then recovering from concussions.

    If the argument was "It was legal, so who cares", maybe the rules should be change. This wasn't the case of a freak accident – Kromwall followed the rules and seriously injured someone. Maybe the rules should be backed off a little.

    I don't want to change the roughness of hockey – but I also don't want to get to a place where we lose all of the skilled players to concussions – even if the hits are "legal". There's got to be a balance, and I guess I'm feeling like we haven't found it yet. 

  10. John W. says:

    Nathan, I respect your opinion, but there is no such thing as hitting a guy too hard. There is a reason Havlat is ALWAYS hurt, I'm guessing looking at that play it's because he doesn't now how to protect himself. Look at guys like Hank and Pav, guys are always running at them, but they know how to avoid it and still make the play. Havlat obviously doesn't have that internal clock that lets you know when you've been looking down too long and that danger is imminent.

    Also, there is a reason for that kind of hit, and no it's not to rile up fans or even really for momentum. I've never really bought the momentum thing on those hits, if anything it makes the receiving team madder. To me the logic behind that kind of hit is simple, it puts doubt in the other team's mind. What I mean by that is, later in that game or series, there will be a timewhen, a Hawk in this case, will be in a similar spot, fumbling the puck in his feet, and whether Kronner is near by or not, he will remember the Havlat hit. When he does, he will either hesitate, or swipe at the puck as quickly as he can to avoid a similar fate, and that just may lead to a key turnover and possibly a goal. That is why that hit is a key part of the game, it causes other players make plays they don't want to make. A simple body check doesn't have that same effect.

  11. John W. says:

    Oh, and in case anyone is still not convinced of the legality of the hit, here is a great screen capture of the video showing the moment of impact (via A2Y, originally posted at the KK main site):

    <img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KQkmYfG5atE/Shdwf-GxjjI/AAAAAAAAAHo/rbS1x-YEiNI/s800/kronwall_havlat.jpg&quot; /> (Ed.- Fixed. It's HTML here, not BBCode. - Matt)

  12. John W. says:

    Oops guess I must have messed up the pic link (this site must not use the same coding as others I've used). If anyone wants to see it, just copy and paste the link inbetween the [img] stuff into your browser. Sorry about that.

  13. Marlon says:

    For all the flak Kronwall's taken for a clean hit I'm surprised no one's mentioned Byfuglien skating from 30 feet away to forearm Kronwall's head into the boards, and then when Kronwall falls on top of Havlat, Byfuglien's multiple crosschecks to the back.

    Nobody raises any questions there because Byfuglien is known to be a "gritty" guy right? Well Kronwall is too and he gets the gate for a clean hit.

  14. John W. says:

    Great point, Marlon, I forgot about that. All Byfuglien got was 2 minutes for roughing, but that elbow/forearm to the back of Kronwall's head was the most illegal thing on that play, he should have probably gotten 5 minutes for the intent to injure there, but since he was "sticking up for a teammate" all he get's is a slap on the wrist.

  15. Matt Saler says:

    Nathan,

    I respect your opinion and can see situation where excessive force might be an issue (some hits in the past could probably fall under that category, like Stevens hits), but I disagree about this instance. Although this was a huge hit, I don't think it was hard enough to be considered excessive. Havlat was not going fast enough, and neither was Kronwall, for one thing. You also can't discount Havlat's tendency toward injury. Some hits are excessive, but I don't consider this one to be.

    I think you're overreacting to Havlat's injury. It really wasn't so bad as that, and I haven't seen anything about him going to the hospital. His status for Game 4 isn't even definitive yet.

  16. scenario says:

    Sorry, but most of you folks are drinking way too much hometown koolaid. Any time a guy goes head-hunting like Kronwall obviously did there is a chance for serious injury. The result was a foregone conclusion, not an accident. The refs cannot condone that type of hit, and to their credit they didn't.

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