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		<title>By: Game 4: @ Dallas, 8:00 ET at On the Wings</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57342</link>
		<dc:creator>Game 4: @ Dallas, 8:00 ET at On the Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fourth game of the 2008 Western Conference Finals. Detroit leads the series 3-0 with wins Thursday (4-1), Saturday (2-1), and Monday [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Game 3: @ Dallas, 8:00 ET at On the Wings</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57332</link>
		<dc:creator>Game 3: @ Dallas, 8:00 ET at On the Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is Game 3 of the Western Conference Finals. Detroit leads the series 2-0 (4-1, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57324</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 08:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon B,

That's an unbelievably biased post you made there. I like how you pointed out that Osgood got lucky when Ott hit the post, but not Lidstrom's shot ringing off the iron right before Rafalski's goal. And Ribeiro's missed chance? Yeah, well what about Zetterberg's and Kronwall's 2-on-1 early in the game that dissipated because Kronwall couldn't handle the pass?

And don't tell me what I have or haven't seen before either. Fistric threw a punch at Holmstrom as the linesmen stepped in to break things up. McCreary was right there watching and obviously decided to send a message - that he wasn't going to tolerate that stuff. As for Holmstrom's goal - he didn't touch Turco. I would've had no problem with that goal being waved off, but there was no way it was a penalty. Speaking of missed penalties though, Ribeiro got away with quite a bit of holding. Not to mention Turco elbowing Helm in the face.

Finally, I wonder about your credibility when you make the statement, "The breakaway beats any goaltender in the game." What an utterly ridiculous thing to say. Anyone who knows hockey knows that statistically, goalies have the edge in breakaways - they make the stop about 70% of the time.

Those flaws with your post aside, I do agree that Turco should get more credit. Those goals he allowed weren't examples of poor goaltending. 2 deflections, 1 breakaway, and 1 screened shot. If anything, blame the defense.

If you find it encouraging, though, that the Stars "came back later in the game", then you better hope the Red Wings play their 3rd and 4th lines the majority of the remaining games and stop playing offense. Because that's the only reason the Stars "came back".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon B,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an unbelievably biased post you made there. I like how you pointed out that Osgood got lucky when Ott hit the post, but not Lidstrom&#8217;s shot ringing off the iron right before Rafalski&#8217;s goal. And Ribeiro&#8217;s missed chance? Yeah, well what about Zetterberg&#8217;s and Kronwall&#8217;s 2-on-1 early in the game that dissipated because Kronwall couldn&#8217;t handle the pass?</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t tell me what I have or haven&#8217;t seen before either. Fistric threw a punch at Holmstrom as the linesmen stepped in to break things up. McCreary was right there watching and obviously decided to send a message - that he wasn&#8217;t going to tolerate that stuff. As for Holmstrom&#8217;s goal - he didn&#8217;t touch Turco. I would&#8217;ve had no problem with that goal being waved off, but there was no way it was a penalty. Speaking of missed penalties though, Ribeiro got away with quite a bit of holding. Not to mention Turco elbowing Helm in the face.</p>
<p>Finally, I wonder about your credibility when you make the statement, &#8220;The breakaway beats any goaltender in the game.&#8221; What an utterly ridiculous thing to say. Anyone who knows hockey knows that statistically, goalies have the edge in breakaways - they make the stop about 70% of the time.</p>
<p>Those flaws with your post aside, I do agree that Turco should get more credit. Those goals he allowed weren&#8217;t examples of poor goaltending. 2 deflections, 1 breakaway, and 1 screened shot. If anything, blame the defense.</p>
<p>If you find it encouraging, though, that the Stars &#8220;came back later in the game&#8221;, then you better hope the Red Wings play their 3rd and 4th lines the majority of the remaining games and stop playing offense. Because that&#8217;s the only reason the Stars &#8220;came back&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57323</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much! That stuff was great to read, and it's good to hear that he's doing well enough to be skating again.

It really is a testament to how amazing the medical staffs are for every team.

And the link worked great :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much! That stuff was great to read, and it&#8217;s good to hear that he&#8217;s doing well enough to be skating again.</p>
<p>It really is a testament to how amazing the medical staffs are for every team.</p>
<p>And the link worked great <img src='http://onthewingsblog.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Baroque</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57322</link>
		<dc:creator>Baroque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

Found it!  He is currently a director of player development with the Wings.  Here are some articles about his skating in a charity game to raise money for defibrillators - understandably, he's pretty passionate about the issue.  :)

The pictures are a lot more cheerful that the videos of the incident, that's for sure.

http://comment-blog.advance.net/cgi-bin/mte/mt-search.cgi?tag=Healthy%20Hope%20Foundation&#38;blog_id=1557

(Hope the address is okay - I'm not the link-savviest person on the internet.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>Found it!  He is currently a director of player development with the Wings.  Here are some articles about his skating in a charity game to raise money for defibrillators - understandably, he&#8217;s pretty passionate about the issue.  <img src='http://onthewingsblog.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The pictures are a lot more cheerful that the videos of the incident, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p><a href="http://comment-blog.advance.net/cgi-bin/mte/mt-search.cgi?tag=Healthy%20Hope%20Foundation&amp;blog_id=1557" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/comment-blog.advance.net');">http://comment-blog.advance.net/cgi-bin/mte/mt-search.cgi?tag=Healthy%20Hope%20Foundation&amp;blog_id=1557</a></p>
<p>(Hope the address is okay - I&#8217;m not the link-savviest person on the internet.)</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57321</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Baroque. I had Googled him a couple times and I could never seem to find anything except videos of when it happened. It's good to see that he's still involved with the sport. You just have to hate when it happens to one of your guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Baroque. I had Googled him a couple times and I could never seem to find anything except videos of when it happened. It&#8217;s good to see that he&#8217;s still involved with the sport. You just have to hate when it happens to one of your guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Baroque</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57320</link>
		<dc:creator>Baroque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

Jiri Fisher has a position with the Wings front office, I think in player development.  (Don't know his exact title.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>Jiri Fisher has a position with the Wings front office, I think in player development.  (Don&#8217;t know his exact title.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57319</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wings dominated about 80% of that game,mostly because he Stars were flat out terrible.  It shouldn't have been any closer.

I disagree about Rafalski, though.  Some of his passes were a little weak, and one ended up as a defensive zone giveaway.  There was also the comical incident where he tried to stand up a Star (can't remember who) at the blue line and just missed, giving up a clear path to the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wings dominated about 80% of that game,mostly because he Stars were flat out terrible.  It shouldn&#8217;t have been any closer.</p>
<p>I disagree about Rafalski, though.  Some of his passes were a little weak, and one ended up as a defensive zone giveaway.  There was also the comical incident where he tried to stand up a Star (can&#8217;t remember who) at the blue line and just missed, giving up a clear path to the net.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Landrus</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57318</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Landrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the Av's put on Dallas sweaters?</description>
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		<title>By: Brandon B</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2008/05/09/game-1-wings-4-stars-1/#comment-57317</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saler, I'm sure we will have to agree to disagree, but Turco was better than you give him credit for and you give Osgood too much credit.  Turco had no chance on any of the goals scored on him, period.  2 deflections and the Rafalski goal was completely screened.  The breakaway beats any goaltender in the game.

Osgood had help from his pipe on Ott and Ribeiro couldn't quite get to the puck on what would have been an open net goal.

As for the Fistric penalty, that was unbelievable.  Have you ever seen 1 guy go off for that in the playoffs on the penalty kill?  I will answer for you.  No, you haven't.  Ott might have been guilty, but he didn't get called.

If Fistric was guilty of roughing, then Holmstrom was guilty of goaltender interference.  I for one do not understand how the refs can make one by the books call and then not later.

The Wings won, but the game should have been closer.  As you said, the Stars came back later in the game which is encouraging to the Stars.  I agree with Amy in that if the Stars get beat in game 2 like game 1, this will be a short series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saler, I&#8217;m sure we will have to agree to disagree, but Turco was better than you give him credit for and you give Osgood too much credit.  Turco had no chance on any of the goals scored on him, period.  2 deflections and the Rafalski goal was completely screened.  The breakaway beats any goaltender in the game.</p>
<p>Osgood had help from his pipe on Ott and Ribeiro couldn&#8217;t quite get to the puck on what would have been an open net goal.</p>
<p>As for the Fistric penalty, that was unbelievable.  Have you ever seen 1 guy go off for that in the playoffs on the penalty kill?  I will answer for you.  No, you haven&#8217;t.  Ott might have been guilty, but he didn&#8217;t get called.</p>
<p>If Fistric was guilty of roughing, then Holmstrom was guilty of goaltender interference.  I for one do not understand how the refs can make one by the books call and then not later.</p>
<p>The Wings won, but the game should have been closer.  As you said, the Stars came back later in the game which is encouraging to the Stars.  I agree with Amy in that if the Stars get beat in game 2 like game 1, this will be a short series.</p>
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