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	<title>Comments on: Game 3: Wings 2, Flames 3</title>
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		<title>By: 4/27 Notes at On the Wings</title>
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		<dc:creator>4/27 Notes at On the Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (7:20 PM): I just remembered that a Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi line was tried in Game 3 of the first round. It was Todd Bertuzzi&#8217;s return from a concussion, so it was classified as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Second Round Officiating at On the Wings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Second Round Officiating at On the Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did a decent job in game 1 vs Calgary. Meanwhile, somehow Bill Mcreary (you may remember him from game 3) managed to slip through. How did that happen? Maybe the NHL just decided not to take the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] did a decent job in game 1 vs Calgary. Meanwhile, somehow Bill Mcreary (you may remember him from game 3) managed to slip through. How did that happen? Maybe the NHL just decided not to take the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: firebettman</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/18/game-3-wings-2-flames-3-2/#comment-16579</link>
		<dc:creator>firebettman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe Babs put Lang out for that final faceoff.

I say keep Bertuzzi out and go with what you had the first two games...  that teamed showed up and won the games without a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe Babs put Lang out for that final faceoff.</p>
<p>I say keep Bertuzzi out and go with what you had the first two games&#8230;  that teamed showed up and won the games without a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Saler</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/18/game-3-wings-2-flames-3-2/#comment-16559</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Saler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, 

I'm not saying the Wings didn't have a chance to win in spite of those calls. They did. I wrote above that the final responsibility for their loss was in their hands. Still, I felt like the officiating played far too big a role in the game. I'm with Sarah, I feel like I was denied the ability to watch two great teams because of all the stuff that was missed and because of the calls that were bad. 

Not with every game is the officiating so instrumental. If the Flames had not scored on those power plays or that rush following the missed interference call, you could compare the game to any generic one. But they did score and that makes those calls significant. Again, the Wings could have overcome that stuff, but the officials shouldn't put them in that kind of position, whether they're playing in Calgary or not. 

Yes, they definitely picked up the alarm. And they picked up the crowd being loud at times. It just didn't seem to be so loud the whole game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying the Wings didn&#8217;t have a chance to win in spite of those calls. They did. I wrote above that the final responsibility for their loss was in their hands. Still, I felt like the officiating played far too big a role in the game. I&#8217;m with Sarah, I feel like I was denied the ability to watch two great teams because of all the stuff that was missed and because of the calls that were bad. </p>
<p>Not with every game is the officiating so instrumental. If the Flames had not scored on those power plays or that rush following the missed interference call, you could compare the game to any generic one. But they did score and that makes those calls significant. Again, the Wings could have overcome that stuff, but the officials shouldn&#8217;t put them in that kind of position, whether they&#8217;re playing in Calgary or not. </p>
<p>Yes, they definitely picked up the alarm. And they picked up the crowd being loud at times. It just didn&#8217;t seem to be so loud the whole game.</p>
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		<title>By: Game 4: @ Calgary, 9:30 ET at On the Wings</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/18/game-3-wings-2-flames-3-2/#comment-16549</link>
		<dc:creator>Game 4: @ Calgary, 9:30 ET at On the Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] having won the first two games (4-1, 3-1). The Flames took the first game in Calgary on Tuesday, 3-2. Game 5 is on Saturday at 3:00 ET in Detroit and Game 6, if necessary, is Sunday in Calgary, though [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] having won the first two games (4-1, 3-1). The Flames took the first game in Calgary on Tuesday, 3-2. Game 5 is on Saturday at 3:00 ET in Detroit and Game 6, if necessary, is Sunday in Calgary, though [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/18/game-3-wings-2-flames-3-2/#comment-16536</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, 
All I'm saying is that putting the outcome of 60 minutes of hockey on 2-3 calls is a copout, and that the gamestory you projected could be written for all 82 games on all 30 teams.  

and also, I was the game last night, at Rexall last year and the Dome in 04, and it was easily as loud last night as those events, but clearly the tv michs didn't pick it up (although they did apparently pick up the fire alarm.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br />
All I&#8217;m saying is that putting the outcome of 60 minutes of hockey on 2-3 calls is a copout, and that the gamestory you projected could be written for all 82 games on all 30 teams.  </p>
<p>and also, I was the game last night, at Rexall last year and the Dome in 04, and it was easily as loud last night as those events, but clearly the tv michs didn&#8217;t pick it up (although they did apparently pick up the fire alarm.)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Saler</title>
		<link>http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/18/game-3-wings-2-flames-3-2/#comment-16527</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Saler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, 

If it's an effort in futility, why blog at all? My job as a blogger is to look at these things. I assume it's the same for you. 

During the game, &lt;a href="http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/17/game-3-calgary-1000-et/#comment-16471" rel="nofollow"&gt;I commented&lt;/a&gt; that the officiating was bad overall and I admitted they were probably missing things on the Wings too. I have no doubt that it went both ways. However, you're extra sensitive to what infractions the Wings commit and I'm extra sensitive to what the Flames do. We both miss what our team does. The truth is somewhere in between.

That's not the point, though. The point is the Wings got jobbed on two penalties and one major interference call was missed. Even if you think their penalties were deserved, I would hope you'd be honest enough to admit that Zetterberg was interfered with. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Flames were slapped with any particularly bad phantom calls last night, nor did a blown call by the officials result directly in a Detroit goal. Even if only the interference by Primeau on Zetterberg was called, I wouldn't be talking so much about the officiating. 

Shv,

Perhaps the arena mics just didn't pick everything up. Still, it wasn't as loud as Rexall, which you could hear nearly drowning out the TV announcers last spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s an effort in futility, why blog at all? My job as a blogger is to look at these things. I assume it&#8217;s the same for you. </p>
<p>During the game, <a href="http://onthewingsblog.com/2007/04/17/game-3-calgary-1000-et/#comment-16471" rel="nofollow" >I commented</a> that the officiating was bad overall and I admitted they were probably missing things on the Wings too. I have no doubt that it went both ways. However, you&#8217;re extra sensitive to what infractions the Wings commit and I&#8217;m extra sensitive to what the Flames do. We both miss what our team does. The truth is somewhere in between.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the point, though. The point is the Wings got jobbed on two penalties and one major interference call was missed. Even if you think their penalties were deserved, I would hope you&#8217;d be honest enough to admit that Zetterberg was interfered with. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but I don&#8217;t think the Flames were slapped with any particularly bad phantom calls last night, nor did a blown call by the officials result directly in a Detroit goal. Even if only the interference by Primeau on Zetterberg was called, I wouldn&#8217;t be talking so much about the officiating. </p>
<p>Shv,</p>
<p>Perhaps the arena mics just didn&#8217;t pick everything up. Still, it wasn&#8217;t as loud as Rexall, which you could hear nearly drowning out the TV announcers last spring.</p>
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		<title>By: Shv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the game last night, and trust me, the Dome was CRAZY loud. probably didn't translate well on TV, but the rafters were shaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the game last night, and trust me, the Dome was CRAZY loud. probably didn&#8217;t translate well on TV, but the rafters were shaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Behind the Jersey &#124; MVN - Most Valuable Network &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reactions from around the blogosphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Behind the Jersey &#124; MVN - Most Valuable Network &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reactions from around the blogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at On the Wings posted a solid game recap and talks about some of the missed calls or even wrong calls that the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think that the officiating was the only deciding factor in the game. However, I feel like it took the game out of the hands of the players. It was a really close game and I think the teams were playing pretty evenly matched. Who knows what would have happened if the Wings hadn't been saddled with so many bogus penalties or if Calgary had actually been called for some of the interference they were doing. I feel like I got jipped out of the chance to see these teams really battle it out. I can't believe I'm saying this, but we got better officiating from Mick Mcgeough.

Besides the officiating, we certainly were not perfect in all areas. Lang still isn't doing anything (unless you count losing faceoffs). Babs made some questionable decisions, the worst of which was putting Lang out for that final faceoff. He has had the worst faceoff percentage of the entire team for the last two games at least. I'm assuming (because I don't think Babcock is a complete idiot) that this was some failed attempt at motivating Lang. I personally don't know why he didn't just go with his original plan of putting Bert on his line. Sounds like he's planning on doing that tomorrow though so I guess we'll see if it works. 

Zetterberg seemed like he was a step behind all night. He and Pavel were definitely not in sync as they usually are. Here's hoping it was just a case of jet-lag and he'll be back on track tomorrow.

I think Dom had a good performance overall, but never should have given up that Iginla goal. I don't know what was going on there.

At any rate, it greatly comforts me that this was a one goal loss and not a blowout. I am confident the Wings will come out strong tomorrow and pull out a win at the Saddledome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that the officiating was the only deciding factor in the game. However, I feel like it took the game out of the hands of the players. It was a really close game and I think the teams were playing pretty evenly matched. Who knows what would have happened if the Wings hadn&#8217;t been saddled with so many bogus penalties or if Calgary had actually been called for some of the interference they were doing. I feel like I got jipped out of the chance to see these teams really battle it out. I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m saying this, but we got better officiating from Mick Mcgeough.</p>
<p>Besides the officiating, we certainly were not perfect in all areas. Lang still isn&#8217;t doing anything (unless you count losing faceoffs). Babs made some questionable decisions, the worst of which was putting Lang out for that final faceoff. He has had the worst faceoff percentage of the entire team for the last two games at least. I&#8217;m assuming (because I don&#8217;t think Babcock is a complete idiot) that this was some failed attempt at motivating Lang. I personally don&#8217;t know why he didn&#8217;t just go with his original plan of putting Bert on his line. Sounds like he&#8217;s planning on doing that tomorrow though so I guess we&#8217;ll see if it works. </p>
<p>Zetterberg seemed like he was a step behind all night. He and Pavel were definitely not in sync as they usually are. Here&#8217;s hoping it was just a case of jet-lag and he&#8217;ll be back on track tomorrow.</p>
<p>I think Dom had a good performance overall, but never should have given up that Iginla goal. I don&#8217;t know what was going on there.</p>
<p>At any rate, it greatly comforts me that this was a one goal loss and not a blowout. I am confident the Wings will come out strong tomorrow and pull out a win at the Saddledome.</p>
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