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More on Roberto Luongo

James Mirtle disagrees that the Wings would be risking losing Luongo after just one year:

For one, there’s no way any team trading for Luongo is going to do so with the notion that they’ll only have him for one season. A pre-negotiated long-term deal will likely accompany any deal simply for the fact that it will give Keenan something he doesn’t have at the moment: leverage.

The scenario James lays out in the rest of the post is much more soberly thought out than my initial reaction to the idea, which he quotes.

Still, it’s hard to decide which is worse: throwing $7 million a year and a couple of our best young stars at an overrated, only semi-proven goalie but having him locked up for, say, five years for better or for worse. Or making a similar trade at Luongo’s current salary and losing him after a year.

Maybe Luongo is exactly what the Wings need. Maybe he’ll be a force for this team for the rest of his career. Maybe he’ll carry them to three Cups and re-establish their dominance. Or maybe he’ll totally bomb after he finds that on a skilled team, the goalie doesn’t have to make 57 saves a night and he isn’t expected to win every game for them singlehandedly.

The list of alternatives isn’t overly impressive, as James points out. Luongo is certainly the biggest name out there. But this isn’t Dominik Hasek in the summer of 2001 (just to mention the last big goalie trade-to-sign deal the Wings made). Dom had proven he could take a team, any team, to the Finals. Furthermore, he wanted to play in Detroit. All Luongo wants is to get out of Florida and get some team to pay him a ton of money before he’s done anything.

I don’t want to see the Wings stuck with a flop of a goalie that happens to have an enormous salary. I think there’s a reason Detroit goalies are always derided by the fans: we generally don’t have the best and when we do, they often don’t perform up to expectations. Think Curtis Joseph. The only exception I can remember is Dominik Hasek, who was a pretty exceptional goalie, in that first year. Even without the best goalie available, the Wings won two Cups. Their historical strength has not been goaltending, it has been skilled skaters backed by strong goalies (just not the “best”).

A bigger-name goalie is not the solution to the playoff problem. In fact, generally, the goalie seems to be one of the best players in most of the early exits I can remember. Their problem has always been lack of scoring and I think it’s unfair to pin the blame on the goalies by asserting the solution is a better goalie.

As far as I’m concerned, the Wings only need a one- or two-year veteran goalie who will help usher in the goalies they already have in their system. Such a goalie will not come at such a high price and would allow Holland to make other moves that would shore up the offense and defense with more grit and speed, which is what the team desparately needs.

Khan: Lidstrom not going anywhere

Update (10:52 PM): IwoCPO linked today to a Larry Brooks piece in which the NY Post writer opined that the Wings have gone to Lidstrom hat-in-hand, hoping in vain that he will take a pay cut. Can’t say I fully buy into that story. I suspect the Wings’ and Nick are more on the same page than the rumor-mongers would have us believe. - Matt

In a blog post today, Ansar Khan wrote on something I had forgotten to mention in my short response to Game 6, namely Eric Duhatschek’s comments about Nick Lidstrom on Satellite Hotstove (Real Media file) last night. The panel was discussing possible off-season moves by various teams and when asked by Ron MacLean to discuss Detroit, Duhatschek just said he felt the Wings would have a hard time signing Lidstrom because they wouldn’t be able to throw the necessary money at him. (I’m paraphrasing here and since I’m on dial-up at home, I can’t re-watch the clip)

Duhatschek is a big name in the business, a journalist who knows his stuff and he didn’t say that for the heck of it. He obviously had a reason to believe what he said. However, I am fully with the little Detroit hockey journalist Ansar Khan on this one:

There’s a lot of uncertainty about what moves the Wings will make in the next few weeks, but there is one thing that you can absolutely, positively take to the bank: Lidstrom WILL re-sign with the Wings. Frankly, I don’t understand why that would even be questioned.

Me either. It’s reasonable to expect the Wings to be okay with giving Lidstrom a raise from the $7.6 million he earned last season. Nick could easily demand the league max, which is expected to be just under $8.8 million (20% of just under $44 million) but, as Khan says, I think it’s more likely he’ll get $8 million.

I personally doubt Lidstrom will make it difficult for the Wings. The man used to threaten to leave Detroit and return to Sweden but during the lockout, when others of his countrymen were heading off to the SEL, he didn’t go anywhere except for vacation. He was content to stay in town and let his kids go to school and live their life in Michigan. To me, that speaks volumes about his interest in sticking around.

Khan: Wings need to acquire Luongo

Update (12:50 PM): IwoCPO likes Khan’s reasoning as well as the idea of Roberto Luongo in the Winged Wheel. Maybe I’d be okay with the idea too, were it not for the reasons listed below. - Matt

Ansar Khan believes acquiring the League’s most overrated goalie will be the blockbuster/inspirational move the team needs to restore everyone’s confidence. Khan sees the need for Holland to do what he did in the summer of 2001 (which just happened to be one of the best free-agent/trade markets ever), when he acquired Dominik Hasek, Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille and “shocked the hockey world.”

The difference between those deals and anything that would happen with Luongo this summer was that they hardly cost the Wings anything in terms of personnel. Slava Kozlov was a contributor but Hasek had established himself as one of the game’s best, from the regular season all the way to the Finals, unlike Luongo, who hasn’t carried his team anywhere like Dom did. That was a worthwhile trade and was so lopsided in the Wings’ favor as to be grossly unfair for Buffalo, who had to do it because Hasek demanded it.

The only way to get Luongo is to trade away someone significant. Sounds like a great idea, Ansar. Trade Pavel Datsyuk for Roberto Luongo and then lose him on the free agent market after next season. To me, that’s the most likely scenario. Khan says the Wings have nothing to lose by such a deal but if Luongo isn’t signed to a long-term deal, it absolutely will not be worth it to trade away players like Pavel Datsyuk, Jimmy Howard or any other player the Wings’ have pegged their future on. They have a lot to lose and would be hinging their hopes on a prima donna goalie who has never been in the postseason. Ever.

Haven’t we dealt enough with goalies that have no playoff experience? I want someone who’s been there, done that, not some postseason virgin, regardless of his name.

Edmonton wins Game 6 in decisive fashion

Update (1:04 PM): Alanah over at VCOE takes issue with my comments on the fans at Rexall place.

Like I said, I understand the sentiment, but I think that kind of chant should be saved for times when the Cup is a guarantee. It’s a celebratory cheer but Edmonton hasn’t won it yet. I know I kept thinking, “It’s too bad this isn’t Game 7,” and I’m sure the fans there were thinking the same thing so maybe it’s a natural reaction. Still, it was just Game 6 and the Oilers have only put themselves in a position to win the Cup, no more. Tomorrow night, we’ll find out whether or not they’ll finish the job.

I’m not berating the fans at Rexall place. I think they’re great for the overwhelming show of support they give the Oilers. They really do put fans in other areans around the league to shame. I just think that particular chant was premature.

By the way, Alanah, you’ve been writing far more great material lately than I have! - Matt

I have to say I’m a little shocked at how much the Oilers dominated tonight. Did Carolina forget that they could have won the Cup had they shown up to play?

Edmonton clearly wanted it more and absolutely outworked the Hurricanes, who put up one of the most pitiful performances of the playoffs, notching just 16 shots, seven of which came over the first two periods.

Scott Oake was trying to pin it on travel, which Carolina is not all that used to, but it’s hard to discount Edmonton’s performance. Their power play was strong, racking up three goals in nine chances and putting on a good show on a couple power plays on which they didn’t score. They were far more physical than the ‘Canes all game long and won the majority of the battles along the boards.

Cam Ward kept the ‘Canes in it, as did their skill (luck?) at blocking shots. Otherwise, it could have been ugly.

Laviolette’s pep talk in the second period during his time-out got Carolina playing more respectable hockey but they still were nowhere near the form of earlier in the series.

Once again, the fans at Rexall place put other arenas to shame with their raucous support of the Oilers throughout the game. I have to say, though, that their chant, “We want the Cup!” toward the end was pretty lame. As far as I’m concerned, you only cheer that during a clinching game or between the end of the game and the actual presentation. You don’t cheer it in Game 6 when the series is going back to the other city. All that’s going to do is give the ‘Canes that much more to draw on for the seventh game. Besides, I don’t think anyone in Edmonton really wanted to see the Cup tonight because it would have meant a Carolina victory. I understand the sentiment but it’s just obnoxious.

I stuck around and watched the post-game interviews on CBC and think I am scarred for life after seeing probably all but about three inches of Chris Pronger’s thighs as he sat with Michael Peca to talk with Oake and Kelly Hrudey. I know you’re a big man, Pronger, and it must be hard to find shorts long enough, but I never want to see that again.

Game 7 is Monday night in Carolina and I hope the ‘Canes show up to play, for their fans’ sake. The Oilers obviously smell blood and have a heck of a lot of momentum. If the Hurricanes react to tonight the way they should, Game 7 ought to be amazing.

Fernando Pisani sends Finals to Game 6

Pisani intercepted a pass and took the puck in to score a shorthanded breakaway goal at 3:31 of overtime, keeping Edmonton alive for at least one more game. Guess Karmanos won’t get to do this yet, the jerk.

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Ron MacLean and Colin Campbell on rule changes

From the After Forty segment of Game 4. Worth watching, even though CBC doesn’t have the rights to play the clips that are being discussed. Ron MacLean makes some good points about the rule changes and I have to say I find it somewhat frightening that Colin Campbell, not just some random puckhead but a person of real power in the League, thinks the way he does. Link opens Real Player. Tom Benjamin has more here.

Acid Queen talks with Eklund

“whether you like me or not, I have reached a level where I am the only internet blogger ever to be credentialled for the finals…yes even the locker rooms” Gee, Eklund, you’d think the NHL would have issued a press release for such a monumental change in policy. Guess not, eh?

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Carolina wins in Edmonton, leads series 3-1

Oilers look to be running out of gas but need to find the energy to pull off a big win on the road Wednesday

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Khan: Datsyuk-Luongo rumor bogus

Has it straight from Ken Holland: “I can nix (the rumor) in two ways: No conversations with Florida and I don’t have any plan to trade Datsyuk.’’ But Ansar still thinks the Wings will pursue Luongo.

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The NHL’s Quiet Rebellion

Greg Wyshynski has a great piece posted at The Fourth Period that stands in contrast to the Chris Shott article of Slate.com.