Monthly Archive for June, 2005

Verbal Cheap Shots

Jamie Fitzpatrick, about.com Pro Ice Hockey Blog:

“The tempest will pass in a few days. But it’s a good reminder to Gary Bettman about the new dynamic he has created. Bettman and the NHL owners invested several years in a cynical campaign to paint hockey players as greedy, privileged fat cats. It worked nicely, as most fans stayed happily ignorant of the core issues in the labor dispute, bought into the myth that it was all about achieving competitive balance, and simply decided they had no sympathy for a bunch of millionaire jocks (and thus supported the NHL).”

UPDATE 10:38

Kara Yorio has a good article about the perception of fan ignorance, but keying more in on how the league wouldn’t have cancelled the season if it didn’t have an assumption that the fans were going to return no matter what. And that we’ll forgot about promises for drops in ticket prices.

What about Nick?

After reading analyses of the Red Wings’ 2005-2006 payroll on Mlive and DetNews, which were curiously similar to my post from Saturday, I was left stumped. Sure, they said to buyout Derian Hatcher and Ray Whitney, maybe even Darren McCarty. But what about Nick Lidstrom? You know, the guy slated to make $7.6 million post-24% rollback? With a $36 million neighborhood cap ceiling, that’s more than 1/5 of the total payroll. Last season’s payroll was $78 million, making Lidstrom approximately 1/8 of player costs back then.

I know it’s a taboo topic, but I think it’s time to bring up the subject of getting Lidstrom’s contract either re-negotiated or deferred, or, God forbid, bought out if he refuses the first two options. We certainly can’t pay him $7.6 million. So get past the typical Wings fan loyalty to Lidstrom, and get in the GM seat. Even if Nick is one of the best players in the world, spending 1/5 of the payroll on him alone may actually make the Wings worse off than (gasp!) letting him go and balancing out the team with the money left behind. It’d mean filling out a lot of the roster with Griffins and journeymen veterans if we keep him at that price.

Now don’t jump all over me and say I want Nick gone and accuse me of Hockeytown heresy. All’s I’m saying is that the media is skirting the issue of Nick Lidstrom’s dinosaur salary for 2005-2006, and expect for it to be addressed or else the Wings are going to be the Griffins again next season. And you all remember how bad the 2003-2004 season was…and that was due to injuries. So let’s not self-inflict it by paying Lidstrom $7.6 million.

Manny Legace: NHLPA has failed the players, fans, everybody

Manny Legace, Red Wings player rep:

“The whole thing is a farce. We basically sat out for nothing, wasted a lot of money for nothing. It makes no sense to me…I wish we would have offered this deal last summer. Maybe (owners) would have been more generous. Maybe negotiations could have taken only two weeks, like the NBA (which recently signed a new collective bargaining agreement). They (union leaders) ticked off all the owners and (the owners) went out to screw the players. They had the right intention. They made everyone buy into what they told us. Now it seems like they’re giving up everything just to start the season on time…If we’re going to give up all this now, why wasn’t the union smart enough to get a deal done sooner, instead of saying, ‘Screw you,’ (to the owners) the whole time? I lost $1.3 million. What was the purpose? We hurt businesses downtown, we hurt fans, we hurt everybody - for nothing. I feel bad for those people. I could understand if we were still sticking to a cause. What reason did we sit out for? It doesn’t make sense…It’s not just him (Goodenow), it’s the whole (executive) committee.”

If you can’t tell who “lost” the lockout, just listen to the players in the coming weeks. They’re starting to come out of the closet.

Kris Draper Pajama Party

Kris Draper was coming off his best season offensively, winning the Selke as best defensive forward and signing a four-year, $11.25 million contract at this time last summer. The deal also included a no-trade clause, which says a lot about Draper’s character and stature on the team. He’s the arguable replacement for Steve Yzerman as captain, but these days he’s just taking in the time off. Other than charity games and playing for the Canada at the world championship in Austria, Draper has taken advantage of his time off to, you’ll never guess it…attend a pajama party.

“The quality time I’ve been able to put in with them is irreplaceable. I jumped into their everyday lives. Usually, they have to jump into my life because I travel so much when I’m playing…I cook meals and do the kids’ baths. I got real good at the instant oatmeal for breakfast, and we barbecue all winter so I was able to barbecue, broil up vegetables, make sure everybody was getting healthy meals.”

Daughter Kennedi, 5, and son Kienan, 3, feel the same way. When the opportunity came to have a mother-daughter pajama party at school, Kris got the nod:

“They had a mother-daughter pajama party at school. For whatever reason, Kennedi had in her mind she wanted her dad there. I went in my lounging clothes. I was there with her and her whole class and all the moms - the only dad.”

But Kris wouldn’t want it any other way during the lockout. He had the opportunity to play in Switzerland, but backed out after realizing what he would be leaving behind:

“That’s the reason I didn’t go over and play in Europe. There’s no way I would have been able to leave my wife (Julie) and kids to go over there.”

Reacting like everyone in the hockey community to the cancellation, Draper had to get away. Destination: Cancun, Mexico for a 10 day family vacation. But returning home to Detroit brought the reality of the lockout back, to which Draper is rather optimistic:

“I’m going to be excited, relieved, and hopeful that I don’t have to go through this again and, for our sport, hopeful that nothing like this has to happen again. There’s been a lot of damage to our sport. The players realize we have to build it back up, and we’re committed to doing that. We want to start the repair process and get the game back to where it belongs.”

And I know, Jacko, you perked up when you heard about a pajama party. Well sorry, you weren’t invited…for obvious reasons…

We forgive you JR. Really.


No matter what Jeremy Roenick says to cover his behind, fans will only remember the comments he says were taken out of context.

(I have to apologize myself: for my poor Photoshop skills.)

Jeremy Roenick TSN Interview: Let’s Clear Things Up

Here are Jeremy Roenick’s comments from an interview with Rod Smith of TSN. Jeremy spoke from Sun Valley, Idaho, his summer hang-out spot:

Smith: “We are live so whatever you say-”

JR: “It was a strong statement, but it was very a strong question. Which, by the way you didn’t hear on all the promos that were played. All you saw was my response. You didn’t see the 14 minutes beforehand when I went on a rampage about how we have to make this game better for the fans. And bring them in and coddle them more, and make it easier for them to watch in the pocketbook, more exciting for them to watch on the ice, and give them more of an element to go and watch the game. We have to coddle them. But you didn’t see all that. All you saw was my negative stuff. So it’s another media ploy to get something controversial out of something that was actually started as a very, very fan-appreciative, fan-friendly
interview.”

Smith : “You’ve been in these situations before and know how the media operates -”

JR: “I understand that, which is another reason why I’m here. But that doesn’t mean I can still agree with it every time it happens, and it happened again. And I’m dealing with it and I’ve been dealing with it all day. There has not been a call I have not taken or an interview I haven’t taken…to let everyone know that my whole interview was about making sure that we get a deal done. Let’s get a deal done now, soon. Who cares what it is. Who cares who wins or loses anymore. I really don’t care so much. It’s been too long. The Game’s been gone, the fans have suffered too much. Who cares who wins or loses, we need to get a game back on the ice. We need to make it more exciting for the fans. We have to make it higher scoring, maybe easier to attend the game financially. Make the fans see us more, more interviews, get them closer to the Game. We have to make this more of a fan-friendly game is what I was trying to get to. But you couldn’t understand that through all this media stuff.

And I would never, and everybody who knows me for 17 years I have worked to try and keep a fan-friendly relationship, my whole career. Sign autographs at the rink, after games, before games; I’ll wait till everybody gets one. I’ll say ‘hi’ in the street. Shaking hands, giving time to take a picture. No matter what time of the day, who I’m with, or how long it takes. The fans are the #1 most important entity in professional sports. It would go totally against my nature, totally against my nature, to tell the fans not to come and watch. I love the fans. I’m a hot dog left and right for the fans. I love it. I love throwing pucks and winking and all that stuff. In my answer, when I was very riled, and I’m sorry I get very heated, I get very animated, I’m a passionate person. But I was referring to a very, very very small percentage of people, that I’ve even encountered that have a gripe against me, against hockey players - not the hockey fan. At all. I’d never do that…and all you fans: come back, cause I love you, we love you. And we need you.”

Bolded are the key elements of the interview that cleared things up for me. Much more so than watching the two minute clip TSN offered or even I’d imagine being at that press conference and taking in the entire 14 minutes. The fact is that JR was riled up and he needed to do this clarification interview to give us a better understanding of his feelings.

I knew JR was a guy who’s stuck up for the fans in the past, but I really thought that comment was directed at some of the fans. If not, he should’ve prefaced it with “all you guys in the media who call us this, this, and this,” rather than throwing it out there and using “everyone out there…” when it’s obvious fans are listening in as well. It was a mistake in the heat of the moment. Maybe he had golfed a bad round of golf before taking the mic. That’s fine. I was going to watch hockey next season either way, but I know this comment could’ve hurt a lot of the US fan base especially, so I want to get this out there.

When I read the quotes the first time, I was more taken aback by how he had trashed Goodenow and the rest of the NHLPA for not listening to him and the smart players back in February. I really thought that was going to be the story. It followed up Jagr’s comments perfectly. I barely had noticed the possible insult of a huge block of fans until the outrage started coming in, and then I read through the quotes again and saw where it was all coming from. And it really did feel like a slap in the face for some of the fans who have a right to be upset with the players (especially February on). But I was more worried about how other people took it, because I really have had this feeling about JR all along that he wouldn’t be saying that type of thing in the literal sense. Let’s move on. Of all guys, JR deserves a pass on this one. And don’t you love his comments about getting the deal done!

Jeremy Roenick: Comments Taken Out of Context

Jeremy Roenick isn’t taking back his comments, nor is he charging misquote, but he’s saying his comments about fans were taken out of context by the majority of media outlets, especially in the US. He even left several messages with ESPN asking for more fair coverage:

“Before I went into my rant, I was talking about the game of hockey, about getting it back on the ice, about what we have to do for the fans and telling people it’s not about who wins or loses, it’s about the game. But the media picked out the negative stuff. Don’t show snippets of the interview; show the whole interview, the whole message. My message during the interview was: How do we make the game more appealing to the fans?”

It’s an easy charge to make by any professional athlete. But if you give a two minute interview and release a tirade at the end of it, that’s going to be the story. When you say things like he said, even if in the context of a calm interview, you put yourself in the position to look like an idiot. He should know that by now…

And lashing out at fans, even if it were a small block of them, is the last thing players should be doing right now. And Roenick lashed out at around 60-65% of fans with his comments about how fans who see players as greedy shouldn’t watch/attend games next season. Sorry JR, but it’s easy enough for us not to show up or care. And your comments only make it easier…

UPDATE 6:58 PM

More from JR:

“But the media picked out the negative stuff. … Don’t show snippets of the interview; show the whole interview, the whole message. My message during the interview was: How do we make the game more appealing to the fans?”

You just have to go to the school of Howard Dean to learn that an angry outburst can overshadow an entire message. It is not just what you say, but how you say it. Reportedly, Mario Lemieux had similar comments before JR’s conference time, where he said the players aren’t greedy and this new CBA is exhibit A for proof. But you don’t see his name plastered all over the headlines. Because he said it with respect and didn’t say “kiss my ass” at the end of each sentence.

Unfortunately, a reader of the Vancouver Province has taken the opportunity to use the JR rant as proof that NHL players are dumb:

“Not only are the players spoiled and cocky, they are also generally poorly educated. The majority of National Hockey League players barely have their Grade 12. The majority of us who buy tickets are educated enough to know that the outcome of this dispute would end this way.”

Well, I’m not going to go through every team, but Krzysztof Oliwa (computer genius), Igor Larionov (wine connoisseur), and Steve Moore (Harvard, degree in environmental science) are a few names on the NHL Honor Roll, not to mention all the NHLers who played college hockey I could list.

6/27 Notes

CBA negotiations
Last week both sides worked to negotiate a deal to put a halt to the current lockout. However, specifics have not been disclosed from the meetings. “Obviously, we know that time is of the essence in working to conclude a new CBA, and both sides are proceeding on that basis,” NHL executive vice president Bill Daly said in a statement.

Two weeks ago word leaked out that the NHL and NHLPA agreed on a deal that was based on a salary-cap system on a team-by-team revenue. According to the Globe and Mail of Toronto, each team will have its own salary floor and cap, which will be determined by team revenue. The cap could reasonably range from $34-36 million and the floor, $22-24 million. The Globe and Mail also reports that the cap would include benefits like signing and performance bonuses. In between the cap and floor, a luxary tax would kick in dollar for dollar. The players’ original offer of a 34 percent rollback is believed to remain part of that deal.

“Progress has been made in a number of areas, but there remains a considerable amount of work to be completed in order to reach an agreement,” union senior director Ted Saskin said.

While the draft was canceled in March, TSN is reporting that if a deal is reached, the draft date would be on August 6, 2005.

NHL players are “lab rats”
Bill Adams, a management attorney who specialized in labor disputes, views NHL players as “lab rats” after seeing the NBA close a deal and prevent a lockout for their next season. Adams believes that the NHL losing a full season to a lockout and its results will dictate sport league’s negotiations.

“I think you’re going to see a lot of modeling done in professional sports after the NHL situation. It probably will stabilize labor relations in sports for a long time,” he said. “While the financial circumstances are different, I think all professional athletes, except golfers, have been scared by the way it unfolded.”

NHL teams start to return staff
Today, June 27, the Nashville Predators extended head coach Barry Trotz’s contract. Trotz has been the only coach for the franchise since August 8, 1997. In 2004, he led the team to its first playoff game with an overall record of 183-328-60-21.

“This is the coaching staff that we want leading the Nashville Predators when the National Hockey League returns,” general manager David Polie said. “Our goal is for Barry Trotz to pick up where he left off and build upon our playoff run in 2004.”

The Predators on Monday also signed assistant coach Peter Horachek, associate coach Brent Peterson, goaltending coach Mitch Korn, video coach Robert Bouchard and strength and conditioning coach David Good to contract extensions.

The St. Louis Blues have also signed Mike Kitchen as coach. The Chicago Blackhawks and Mighty Ducks of Anaheim also have new general managers; coach Brian Sutter was fired from the Blackhawks. This recent flicker of activity among NHL teams and their staff are like the light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully, they have been led to believe a deal can be met and that a season will be in place for 2005-2006.

Some Red Wings tidbits
The Hockey News reported in mid-June that Steve Yzerman along with seven hockey friends went to Scotland on an eight day trip in celebration of his 40th birthday. The tour included many of golf’s oldest and finest courses like Aberdeen, Carnoustie, and Troon. Yzerman’s hockey buddies include Kris Draper, Steve Duschesne, Eric Lindros, Darren Pang, Robert Lang, Ray Whitney, and Steve Thomas.

The Hockey News also reported:

Top right wing prospect Igor Grigorenko has agreed to play for Severstal Cherepovets of the Russian Super League in 2005-06. The 22-year-old native of Togliatti, Russia spent 2004-05 with both his hometown club (Lada Togliatti) and Salavat Yulayev Ufa in the RSL (41 GP, 11-8-19, +8, 28 PIM). Grigorenko could find himself with the AHL’s Grand Rapids Griffins–or possibly in Detroit–if NHL play resumes in September, but the organization may want him to continue to develop overseas. After all, he’s still not all the way back following a car accident in 2003.

Regret? An Apology? Another Player Speaks

Roenick: “We got our asses kicked”

Jeremy Roenick, speaking from Mario Lemieux’s charity golf tournament:

“They [the NHLPA] could have listened to the players who had an idea of where this was going - myself, Robert Esche, Jarome Iginla, and Chris Pronger…I really took a beating, a couple of guys took a real beating in February because we decided to do what we wanted to do and claimed that we should have signed that deal in February…If we would have signed that deal in February, in terms of what we’re getting now, we would have looked like heroes. Right now we look like a bunch of idiots…The deal in February beats the [expletive] out of the deal we’re gonna sign in July.”

“It’s unfortunate we had to go through a whole year to realize the [expletive] that was going on. We’ve hurt our league, we’ve hurt the reputation of our league and the integrity of our league by sticking up for something that might not have been the right thing to do.”

“If people are going to sit and chastise pro athletes for being cocky - for being suck asses - they need to look at one thing and that’s the deal we’re going to be signing in about three weeks. Pro athletes are not cocky. Pro athletes care about the game. Everybody out there who calls us spoiled because we play a game - they can kiss my ass….I will say personally, personally, to everybody who calls us spoiled, you guys are just jealous, and screw you guys because we have tried so hard to get this game back on the ice to make it better for the fans. And if you don’t realize that, don’t come. We don’t want you in the rink, we don’t want you to watch hockey. Period.”

“We might have won in 1994, the owners will win in 2005, somewhere in the middle let’s make the fans win once in a while. Let’s get the game better and get back on the ice and play.”

Wow. That’s a huge statement to make. Clearly, Roenick regrets not getting the February deal. Go to TSN for video of Roenick’s statement. Among the new quotes gleaned from the video:
“It’s the worst I’ve been defeated since the 1992 Stanley Cup playoffs against the Pittsburgh Penguins when we lost four straight…I think we all are to blame in the situation we’re in…granted I really believe that the owners need to have a system that’s gonna help them make money…I think the players are gonna make their money, they’re gonna make a lot of money regardless, especially the top players of the league….but we have to have a system that’s also gonna let the owners make their money, because if the owners don’t make their money there’s not gonna be a league to be played in….it’s gonna be more than any sports organization has ever given up in the history of sports [the new CBA]…I’ve given $7.5-8 million dollars out of my pocket to try and get this game back on the ice, and a lot of guys have also.”

Red Wings 2005-2006 Payroll

A few days ago I mentioned the sad reality Wings fans face with the new economic system. Here’s the situation:

Forwards

Kris Draper - $2,800,000 ($2,128,000)
Tomas Holmstrom - $1,800,000 ($1,368,000)
Jiri Hudler - $750,000 ($570,000)
Robert Lang - $5,000,000 ($3,800,000)
Kirk Maltby - $1,900,000 ($1,444,000)
Darren McCarty - $2,250,000 ($1,710,000)
Mark Mowers - $375,000 ($285,000)
Brendan Shanahan - $3,000,000 ($2,280,000)
Ray Whitney - $3,500,000 ($2,660,000)

Defensemen

Jiri Fischer - $1,700,000 ($1,292,000)
Derian Hatcher - $6,500,000 ($4,940,000)
Nicklas Lidstrom - $10,000,000 ($7,600,000)
Jamie Rivers - $400,000 ($304,000)

Goalies

Manny Legace - $1,500,000 ($1,140,000)

—-$49,475,000 (*$37,601,000) —-14 players
*24% rollback in parenthesis
Note: Minimum Salary was $185,000

Buyouts/Re-negotiations/Deferments

Based on a cap system with a floor of $22-24 million and a ceiling of $34-36 million, obviously the Wings will have to dump/re-negotiate or defer salaries:

Ray Whitney: re-negotiate at $1,500,000, otherwise buyout
Derian Hatcher: re-negotiate at $3,500,000, otherwise buyout
Nicklas Lidstrom: re-negotiate at $6,000,000, otherwise buyout

—-Payroll becomes $22,401,000 at least or $33,401,000 at most

Signings Left

Henrik Zetterberg - $1,500,000
Pavel Datsyuk - $2,000,000
Steve Yzerman - $750,000
Jason Williams - $750,000
Jason Woolley - $500,000
Niklas Kronwall - $500,000
Mathieu Dandenault - $750,000
Backup Goaltender - $1,000,000
Grand Rapids Griffin - $200,000

—-Cost of additions: $7,950,000 —- 9 players, 23 total

I’m assuming the Wings will sign all of the above nine players, or use the close to $8 million towards those roster spots. That brings the payroll to $30,351,000, without Whitney, Hatcher, or Lidstrom locked in. Not a good situation when the cap ceiling looks to be $36 million. It’s going to be virtually impossible to sign the “buyout trio” for a total $5,649,000. I’ll even go out on a limb and say the Wings might get McCarty, Draper, and Shanahan to defer a total of $1.5 million. That still leaves only $7,149,000 for the trio. Still not gonna happen.

So that brings the sad reality I mentioned a few days ago: buyouts. The hometown hero and boat-racing defenseman Derian Hatcher is out the door. His contract is an obvious dinosaur, and his value has been lacking. Granted he only played 27 games with the Wings due to a torn ACL, I just don’t think he’s worth more than $750,000 base salary (maybe more with bonuses). Don’t fret Derian, there are plenty of other places you can race your boats.

Without worrying about Derian’s dough, the Wings get Lidstrom and Whitney re-negotiated at $6 million and $1.5 million, respectively. So that brings the Wings’ total payroll to $36,351,000, with a roster spot open with Hatcher’s exit. Remember, a $36 million cap. Close enough for tonight…

To summarize what just happened, here’s how you get the Wings in the neighborhood of $36 million payroll:

- Keep 11 players already signed for the season (minus Hatcher, Lidstrom, Whitney)
- That makes $22,401,000 payroll
- McCarty, Draper, Shanahan defer a total $1,500,000
- Now we’re at $20,901,000
- Whitney and Lidstrom agree to re-negotiations for $2,760,000 less
- Buyout Hatcher’s $4,940,000 post-rollback salary
- Now $28,401,000
- Add in signings of nine player free agents
- $36,351,000 for 22 players (Hatcher’s spot open)

*This is all assuming the cap will be at $36 million, the 24% rollback across the board will be exercised, player re-negotiations/deferments will work out, and that buyouts can occur with the transfer fee not going towards the overall roster payroll that must stay under cap. A lot of uncertainty, but at least it’s a good exercise of accounting to see how things might work.

UPDATE 6/26 11:57 am

“The expected new collective bargaining agreement (due any day now at your local rink) is expected to contain a clause in which teams are allowed a one-time chance to buy out any and all contracts and not have it count against the new salary cap…Some big money teams wanted a dispersal draft, but the players shot that down. So, the buyout was a compromise, with one interesting twist - the teams can’t reacquire their own players.”

The Dallas Morning News

That answers two questions I’ve had, if that’s an accurate source. I’m glad buying out players won’t count against the teams, but it scares me a bit that they can’t reacquire bought-out players. What happens when a team buys out an aging veteran, and he remains un-signed by the rest of the league? Does he just have to wait till next season? There should be a interm period where the teams can’t re-sign their bought-out players, but say 180 days later, the possibility should be open. That’d be around December. I guess in that scenario, it would probably be pretty obvious the player would not be taken on the open market, and the player would have to re-negotiate his contract instead of being bought out and taking the risk of waiting 180 days.

UPDATE 6/28 8:24 PM

Well, it’s good to see someone’s reading the site. Ansar Khan from Mlive that is. Here’s his curiously similar take on the Wings’ 2005-2006 payroll. Only one thing he missed: Nick Lidstrom. And how can you forget a $7.6 million dollar post-rollback salary in a $36 million cap?